Abuse? What abuse? I thought they were both adults dating? Is that too difficult for you to fathom in your little local running world? What exactly do you think anyone will do about it?? Hilarious
Wow. Jealousy doesn’t become you. Sounds like you’re the one disruptive to the club. Maybe you should leave if you don’t like it. Coach stole your girlfriend? 😂
You should take the Safe Sport class so you understand the often blurred lines of consent between a coach in a position of power and an athlete of any age. Consent is not as clearly defined as you think it is and taking the class will educate you as to why this is a rule. Like it or not, it is a rule and if the club is sanctioned, a rule that the coach knows and agreed to. It's not that hard to not date your athletes and should be even easier when you agree not to.
Report it and maybe nothing comes of it or maybe it does, but you have done your part in keeping athletes safe.
f. Sexual/ romantic contact is permitted when there is a peer relationship between adults, such as teammates, or there is no imbalance of power between coach and athlete, such as an adult seeking Master’s lessons. SafeSport presumes a power imbalance for most coach-athlete relationships.
Our club team. Someone showed proof of her “accompanying him” outside club hours. Should I report?
The whole point of coaching is to be able to have affairs with fit youngsters of the opposite sex, or whichever sex you prefer. Why else would someone even go into a crappy job like club coaching?
Power imbalance? Doesn't exist when all parties are adults. Anyone who willingly becomes "submissive" in the presence of a coach should take their money to a BDSM club.
You should take the Safe Sport class so you understand the often blurred lines of consent between a coach in a position of power and an athlete of any age. Consent is not as clearly defined as you think it is and taking the class will educate you as to why this is a rule. Like it or not, it is a rule and if the club is sanctioned, a rule that the coach knows and agreed to. It's not that hard to not date your athletes and should be even easier when you agree not to.
Report it and maybe nothing comes of it or maybe it does, but you have done your part in keeping athletes safe.
Must suck to have no one from the opposite sex interested in you at all!! Unsafe sport is either a jilted woman or a total beta “male”. And I apologize in advance to beta males.
Funny how you don't take Safe Sport seriously, if any of you are actual coaches, you are mandatory reporters and it is a violation for you to NOT report it. Sounds like a bunch of Pro-abuse people in here. So sad.
I am assuming here since this is "club" that both parties are adults and have been since the relationship started. If one was a minor, then report it to the police, not just to SafeSport.
One is only a mandatory reporter if one of the people involved is a minor. A report for sexual misconduct could be filed with SafeSport if a crime has been committed. A consensual sexual relationship between 2 adults is not a crime. Yes, you can report it to SafeSport however the club would need to be under its auspices.
If it is a club, then I wonder just what "power" the coach has over the runner? The runner does not need the coach to sign up the runner for meets, does not have financial control over the runner or access to funds (hopefully, if so that could be more criminal than a SafeSport violation).
If there is a club policy against it you could report it to the president of the club, but to what ends? Unless you feel like you are getting short changed due to the coach's attention on that runner, how is it harming you?
Also, in looking at the history of track and field and the number of coaches who have been married or romantically involved with athletes, it seems pretty clear that SafeSport is not going to be involved unless the athlete brings a case.
No, I'm the person that makes sure coaches follow Safe Sport regulations and remove those that do not. Please post names.
1. SEXUAL CONTACTS OR “ROMANTIC” RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN AN ATHLETE AND A PERSON WHO HAS A POSITION OF POWER OVER THE ATHLETE ARE PROHIBITED.
a. “Person with a position of power” includes coaches, administrators, judges, referees, employers, staff, medical personnel, and even volunteers or older athletes and teammates.
b. U.S. Center for SafeSport’s flat prohibition on sexual contact covers children who are under the age of 18. Sexual contact with a child is also prohibited under criminal law; it is a felony and consent is no defense.
c.For those in positions of power, this flat prohibition also includes an athlete that is 18 years old or older, and the athlete “consents” to sexual or romantic contact.
d. A peer or teammate may be in a “position of power” over other athletes; peer sexual contact with minors is prohibited when their ages are separated by more than three years.
e. All competitive levels are covered by this prohibition; not just elite athletes.
f. Sexual/ romantic contact is permitted when there is a peer relationship between adults, such as teammates, or there is no imbalance of power between coach and athlete, such as an adult seeking Master’s lessons. SafeSport presumes a power imbalance for most coach-athlete relationships.
Curious where in the SafeSport code you found this.
This sort of thing would not be allowed in the workplace, so it’s clear why Safe Sport would also have rules against it.
Yeah, if it’s me on an adult club team, I probably am not going to care. But if I thought there could be a problem in bringing it to light (not getting per diem, getting ostracized by teammates, etc.), then this is exactly why Safe Sport exists. Not everyone is going to be ok with something like this.
f. Sexual/ romantic contact is permitted when there is a peer relationship between adults, such as teammates, or there is no imbalance of power between coach and athlete, such as an adult seeking Master’s lessons. SafeSport presumes a power imbalance for most coach-athlete relationships.
No, I'm the person that makes sure coaches follow Safe Sport regulations and remove those that do not. Please post names.
1. SEXUAL CONTACTS OR “ROMANTIC” RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN AN ATHLETE AND A PERSON WHO HAS A POSITION OF POWER OVER THE ATHLETE ARE PROHIBITED.
a. “Person with a position of power” includes coaches, administrators, judges, referees, employers, staff, medical personnel, and even volunteers or older athletes and teammates.
b. U.S. Center for SafeSport’s flat prohibition on sexual contact covers children who are under the age of 18. Sexual contact with a child is also prohibited under criminal law; it is a felony and consent is no defense.
c.For those in positions of power, this flat prohibition also includes an athlete that is 18 years old or older, and the athlete “consents” to sexual or romantic contact.
d. A peer or teammate may be in a “position of power” over other athletes; peer sexual contact with minors is prohibited when their ages are separated by more than three years.
e. All competitive levels are covered by this prohibition; not just elite athletes.
f. Sexual/ romantic contact is permitted when there is a peer relationship between adults, such as teammates, or there is no imbalance of power between coach and athlete, such as an adult seeking Master’s lessons. SafeSport presumes a power imbalance for most coach-athlete relationships.
If I am an athlete on a local running club, my coach is not "in a position of power" over me. I am paying them for their coaching services in the same way that I pay a plumber to fix my toilet. A grow up in a recreational club is a completely different situation from a kid on a high school or college team where the coach does hold power over the athlete. The rule you cite doesn't apply to the situation.
Our club team. Someone showe Cooper Teare 3:32.16d proof of her “accompanying him” outside club hours. Should I report?
The only reason you're thinking of reporting it is because you're jealous. This female coach causes your man sausage to get a bit stiff and you secretly wish that she was having an affair with you.
You are a tool. Seriously, if you are a guy and worried about something like this then you are just jealous because she wouldn’t touch you with a 10 foot poll.
Dude, don't bring the pole vaulter into this mess!
It's the very long survey he brought into it actually.
If I am an athlete on a local running club, my coach is not "in a position of power" over me. I am paying them for their coaching services in the same way that I pay a plumber to fix my toilet. A grow up in a recreational club is a completely different situation from a kid on a high school or college team where the coach does hold power over the athlete. The rule you cite doesn't apply to the situation.
Indeed, some are even paying for club membership just for new opportunities for hunting for sex, so it’s perfectly ethical to hit them consensually. They’d be disappointed if you didn’t.
No, I'm the person that makes sure coaches follow Safe Sport regulations and remove those that do not. Please post names.
1. SEXUAL CONTACTS OR “ROMANTIC” RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN AN ATHLETE AND A PERSON WHO HAS A POSITION OF POWER OVER THE ATHLETE ARE PROHIBITED.
a. “Person with a position of power” includes coaches, administrators, judges, referees, employers, staff, medical personnel, and even volunteers or older athletes and teammates.
b. U.S. Center for SafeSport’s flat prohibition on sexual contact covers children who are under the age of 18. Sexual contact with a child is also prohibited under criminal law; it is a felony and consent is no defense.
c.For those in positions of power, this flat prohibition also includes an athlete that is 18 years old or older, and the athlete “consents” to sexual or romantic contact.
d. A peer or teammate may be in a “position of power” over other athletes; peer sexual contact with minors is prohibited when their ages are separated by more than three years.
e. All competitive levels are covered by this prohibition; not just elite athletes.
f. Sexual/ romantic contact is permitted when there is a peer relationship between adults, such as teammates, or there is no imbalance of power between coach and athlete, such as an adult seeking Master’s lessons. SafeSport presumes a power imbalance for most coach-athlete relationships.
Curious where in the SafeSport code you found this.
I just renewed and as I'm sure you know, all USATF coaches have to be SafeSport certified, so I can assure you that it's in the training and in the code, however, that doesn't mean that every relationship is a violation. I'm not sure on the dates, but Mike Smith of NAU and Rachel (Schneider) Smith obviously were/are a thing and could have fallen into this scenario and they ended up fine. Every situation is not the same and that's why there are allegations and investigations. The rule is a good one and serves a purpose.
As a club coach I can tell you that it's one of the perks and quite harmless. I can gauge by how they respond to massage whether they're a candidate for side piece of the month.