Brooks Hyperion. Or last years Hyperion tempo if you can find on sale.
+1. Made the switch a month ago and it’s been great. I’m very low mileage though (speed based 800m runner, no more than 25 miles/week) so I can’t speak to their quality for longer distance training.
I can...I run everything from 5ks to marathons in them and they're great. My favorite shoe model since the old Adidas Rat Racer some two decades ago.
Boston 12 is a Swiss Army knife - great shoe that can handle a range of paces, easy on the feet, mine are approaching 600ks and still in great shape (no compression like with ZoomX). My fave shoe that has been released in the last year.
I like the Rebel as a chill, easy shoe. Takumi 9’s are a bit firm. Adios 8’s more so, good for the track but less so for what you stated as your needs.
That’s interesting. Lot of love for the Rebel here. I would not consider them a daily trainer/light tempo. I had one pair of the v3s and I really hated them at daily run pace. Better at tempo/interval pace but the heel collapsed after 30 miles and I returned for a refund. Mach 5s I’ve enjoyed both in tempo workouts and just taking out for an easy run.
In contrast, I get 400+ miles before the heel shows significant wear (1 pair of the V2 and three of the V3).
Agree. For 8 miles or less I use the Streakfly. Warning: The Streakfly 2 may arrive this year with a plate so buy the first edition when the price drops upon the arrival of the second edition.
Nike Vomero 17 is one of the most overlooked trainers of the last year. Completely blows away the Pegasus as a daily, and the inclusion of ZoomX provides enough bounce/pop in the midsole to go uptempo. The rare shoe that can handle recovery to threshold efforts equally well.
Appreciate the variety of responses but found this one interesting. The Vomero 16 is the only Nike shoe in the last like three years that I’ve unequivocally loved. I have a pair of Streakflys but they’re even more hit and Miss than my Bostons and I relegated them to specific workouts and will probably retire them soon. Also recently picked up Adidas Adios 7s but those are strictly for speed days and I couldn’t imagine doing an easy run in them. Ultimately the shoe I’m looking for is the Nike Pegasus Turbo from a few years back but since I’ve burned through my last pair, I haven’t been able to find a similar shoe since and have probably started my fair share of threads looking for it.
Boston 12 is a Swiss Army knife - great shoe that can handle a range of paces, easy on the feet, mine are approaching 600ks and still in great shape (no compression like with ZoomX). My fave shoe that has been released in the last year.
I like the Rebel as a chill, easy shoe. Takumi 9’s are a bit firm. Adios 8’s more so, good for the track but less so for what you stated as your needs.
Boston 12 has energy rods. Which is basically the same as a plate.
I wouldn’t discount them just because they have rods.
What I’ll say regarding my experience with the Bostons (speaking from current Boston 10s) is my problem isn’t really the rods but more the stack. I find that in my Boston 10s the light strike can just feel like a brick sometimes and, unless I’m up on my toes using only lightstrike pro, it can be a pretty tough ride. This is what I attribute a gnarly ankle twist a couple weeks ago too because I just hit a patch of ground wrong and had no give in the foam, so the ankle went one way while the shoe went the other. I’m not opposed to a new version if it’s fixed some problems but just haven’t been impressed with Adidas’ offerings for dual density midsoles.
Nike Vomero 17 is one of the most overlooked trainers of the last year. Completely blows away the Pegasus as a daily, and the inclusion of ZoomX provides enough bounce/pop in the midsole to go uptempo. The rare shoe that can handle recovery to threshold efforts equally well.
Appreciate the variety of responses but found this one interesting. The Vomero 16 is the only Nike shoe in the last like three years that I’ve unequivocally loved. I have a pair of Streakflys but they’re even more hit and Miss than my Bostons and I relegated them to specific workouts and will probably retire them soon. Also recently picked up Adidas Adios 7s but those are strictly for speed days and I couldn’t imagine doing an easy run in them. Ultimately the shoe I’m looking for is the Nike Pegasus Turbo from a few years back but since I’ve burned through my last pair, I haven’t been able to find a similar shoe since and have probably started my fair share of threads looking for it.
Endorphin Speed 2 is a Swiss army knife of a shoe, highly recommended even if it does have a nylon plate. I really miss the Adidas Boston 6 or 7; that was a beast if a shoe, the GOAT of trainers
Second this.
Endoprhin Speed 2s are fantastic. On my fourth pair.
Endorphin Speed 2 is a Swiss army knife of a shoe, highly recommended even if it does have a nylon plate. I really miss the Adidas Boston 6 or 7; that was a beast if a shoe, the GOAT of trainers
Second this.
Endoprhin Speed 2s are fantastic. On my fourth pair.
I think the OP wants shoes that don’t have a plate…. The Endorphin Speed has a nylon plate, I believe.
Brooks Hyperion. Or last years Hyperion tempo if you can find on sale.
I haven't tried the Hyperion, but based on the number of positive votes here, I'm looking at them.
I no longer run or race on the roads. I do my track (400/800m specific) workouts in the Hoka Rocket X or the Vaporfly Next%.
I see that the Hyperion has at least three models: Hyperion, Hyperion Max, Hyperion Elite. Of those of you who have run in these on the track, which model would you recommend?
Nike Vomero 17 is one of the most overlooked trainers of the last year. Completely blows away the Pegasus as a daily, and the inclusion of ZoomX provides enough bounce/pop in the midsole to go uptempo. The rare shoe that can handle recovery to threshold efforts equally well.
Appreciate the variety of responses but found this one interesting. The Vomero 16 is the only Nike shoe in the last like three years that I’ve unequivocally loved. I have a pair of Streakflys but they’re even more hit and Miss than my Bostons and I relegated them to specific workouts and will probably retire them soon. Also recently picked up Adidas Adios 7s but those are strictly for speed days and I couldn’t imagine doing an easy run in them. Ultimately the shoe I’m looking for is the Nike Pegasus Turbo from a few years back but since I’ve burned through my last pair, I haven’t been able to find a similar shoe since and have probably started my fair share of threads looking for it.
Coincidentally, the Peg Turbo Next is not a bad shoe — it’s like a more grounded version of the Pegasus, almost a flat but a little heavy. If anything, I thought it was a little underrated because most people immediately panned it when it wasn’t the second coming of the original Peg Turbo 2.
Vomero 17 really is the best non-plated shoe Nike has made the last few years, probably since the Invincible 1. If you liked the 16, you’ll love the 17.
Brooks Hyperion. Or last years Hyperion tempo if you can find on sale.
I haven't tried the Hyperion, but based on the number of positive votes here, I'm looking at them.
I no longer run or race on the roads. I do my track (400/800m specific) workouts in the Hoka Rocket X or the Vaporfly Next%.
I see that the Hyperion has at least three models: Hyperion, Hyperion Max, Hyperion Elite. Of those of you who have run in these on the track, which model would you recommend?
Of the three, I've only run in the Hyperion. The Hyperion Elite has a plate (it's Brooks's cheater shoe). The Hyperion Max is a beefed up version of the Hyperion.