NAU better get him to a sea level track so he can run the NCAA record. Even with a conservative conversion, he's still right on the border of breaking Teare's 3:50.39.
Not his distance, but 13:00 is looking pretty good.
3:57 is absolutely flying at 6800 ft. He proved previously that he drops a lot of time from this meet to sea level, though 3:48 does not seem credible. Where it will really pay is at 3k and 5k. He is now arguably as good or better as South Carolina's Anass Essayi (3:50 miler) and Ok State's Messaoudi, last year's 3k champ, at the mile. The reason he isn't a miler himself is that he doesn't have that change of gears. Same reason Kejelcha is not a miler, despite a 3:47.02i world record.
Also notable is Aaron Sahlman's combination of 48.99 and 4:03. The 4:03 is worth about 3:54-56 (they have been at altitude for a long time, aside from vacation), so he is in pr shape already. The 400m winner, who ran 46.56 (and ran faster outdoors in 2023), ran just 51.6 and 49 in his first 400m races in college in 2021. I don't know the last time I saw someone drop that much time in the 400m in college.
Do these “conversations” ever pan out? Every year some dude in the mountains runs 3:5x and then gets dusted at natty’s. Imma call it now, Nico ain’t breaking 3:54 this year.
Do these “conversations” ever pan out? Every year some dude in the mountains runs 3:5x and then gets dusted at natty’s. Imma call it now, Nico ain’t breaking 3:54 this year.
Well they downvote you but realistically Nico is not ever running 3:50. If he could he would have NCAA titles by now. But he is doing well for sure.
Funny that not breaking 3:54 got insta down votes like that’s easy. The college record was 3:55 run by a better dude than Nico. Y’all gen Z cheata fly pan sexies are a hoot.
3:57 is absolutely flying at 6800 ft. He proved previously that he drops a lot of time from this meet to sea level, though 3:48 does not seem credible. Where it will really pay is at 3k and 5k. He is now arguably as good or better as South Carolina's Anass Essayi (3:50 miler) and Ok State's Messaoudi, last year's 3k champ, at the mile. The reason he isn't a miler himself is that he doesn't have that change of gears. Same reason Kejelcha is not a miler, despite a 3:47.02i world record.
Also notable is Aaron Sahlman's combination of 48.99 and 4:03. The 4:03 is worth about 3:54-56 (they have been at altitude for a long time, aside from vacation), so he is in pr shape already. The 400m winner, who ran 46.56 (and ran faster outdoors in 2023), ran just 51.6 and 49 in his first 400m races in college in 2021. I don't know the last time I saw someone drop that much time in the 400m in college.
No it converts to 49xx and he did it after a mile so he is a legitimate sub 49 runner fresh.
What about Lee Evan? His WR at Mexico City was over a second faster than he ever ran at sea level. The times he was within a second, were also at altitude. Larry James also ran a big PR at the Olympics and Ralph Doubell tied the 800m WR. Less air resistance at altitude is a benefit at the shorter distances.
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No it converts to 49xx and he did it after a mile so he is a legitimate sub 49 runner fresh.
What about Lee Evan? His WR at Mexico City was over a second faster than he ever ran at sea level. The times he was within a second, were also at altitude. Larry James also ran a big PR at the Olympics and Ralph Doubell tied the 800m WR. Less air resistance at altitude is a benefit at the shorter distances.
Hey!I just ran 400m (54.06) today at Flagstaff, AZ. Now I really am curious how much faster (if there's a big difference) I would have been at or around sea level. Because Flagstaff is at 7000ft, and I for myself really could...
Very impressive but I don’t think he can run 3:50.
as a former fast altitude runner, my sea level times never matched the conversion especially at the short distances.
1:55-1:55 is a whole different fitness than 2:00-59-58
The conversions are more accurate for a sea level runner coming up to altitude than it is for athletes living at altitude and racing at altitude. ...and it certainly is not accurate for predicting what altitude living athletes would run at sea level!
...this is why the top 18 times for indoor season distance events are dubious...as are the conversations for funky tracks! For instance, every year a bunch of d2 runners will qualify at Colorado School of Mines on their 190 meter track. Conversion for altitude plus conversion for track = butt load of d2 Colorado based athletes qualify. ...and then lose at sea level nationals! Same at CU and NAU. Take em to sea level and those conversions never pan out!
Cooper Teare and Cole Hocker ran 3:50 at sea level in college....and would've run 3:57 in Flagstaff. Nico Young did not run 3:50 equivalent regardless of NCAA conversion voodoo
I think the 3:48 conversion is a bit generous, but do you guys remember the double he did after XC? 7:37/13:22, winning the 3k over a super stacked field in a huge kick we've never seen from him, and running 13:22 in heat 3, pacing a teammate most of the way. If he's been working on his speed, 3:52 low must be on the table.
Do these “conversations” ever pan out? Every year some dude in the mountains runs 3:5x and then gets dusted at natty’s. Imma call it now, Nico ain’t breaking 3:54 this year.
agreed. Nico has NEVER run 3:48 pace for even 800m. His 800m PR is 1:54.21. You have to run back to back 1:53 to run 3:48 for 1609. No way he can average 56.7 for 4 laps in a row.
