This is not how it works -if Nordås is better than Jakob at not getting injuries this is Narve’s own accomplishment, because he did his varied training on all sorts of surface initially against Gjert’s will (but all credit to the latter since he allowed himself to be influenced by Nordås’ will here..).
It was said that he had a "sacrum injury" in November, with little details released at the time & now this. I can't imagine a sacrum injury could be anything but a bone stress injury. That's usually a 4-6 week injury, at minimum. I wonder if he rushed back into training & then this flared up.
I didn’t find it either (and I’m Norwegian and well accustomed to the Nrk web sides; but found it via their main page (maybe closed from other countries..?) -but regarding not reading Norwegian: a lot of Americans (f.ex) on these sites manage to translate the Norwegian stuff into English very well by using recommended programs. And I myself have just communicated quite well and effortless on YouTube with a Russian speaker, although I only know a few Russian words.
Now I'm thinking that maybe this injury, or the one at worlds are made up. Nice little excuse to have the public take there eyes off you and skip some stressfull racing in an oly year.
As much as I want this to be untrue the achilles issue is a red red flag. Science has just not reached the point of being able to reliably heal a damaged tendon fully. Once it degrades, it might never handle the load it once did.
We'll just have to wait and see how this pans out. Missing indoors will in no way hurt his Olympic racing, but obviously he needs to get healed-up and get back to normal training. With Jakob's huge training background, if he can get well in the near future, he'll have plenty of time to be completely fit for the Games.
Or maybe, starting into professional-type training before his teen years has finally caught up to him. We'll see....
Henrik had his best finish in 2012 with 5th at Olympics, made world final in 2013, ran a PB in 2014 but didn't make final in 2015,16 and 17(13th in 5k final 2019).
Filip had his best finish in 2017 with 3rd at WC, ran a PB in 2018, hasn't made the WC/Olympic final since.
Neither of the other brothers lasted long at their peak before injuries plagued them, holding their performances to a lower standard, I hope Jakob can avoid the same fate.
We'll just have to wait and see how this pans out. Missing indoors will in no way hurt his Olympic racing, but obviously he needs to get healed-up and get back to normal training. With Jakob's huge training background, if he can get well in the near future, he'll have plenty of time to be completely fit for the Games.
Or maybe, starting into professional-type training before his teen years has finally caught up to him. We'll see....
Fair assessment. The concerning part is how bad injuries have picked apart top 1500m talent of late taking them out a year at a time (at least):
Tim Cheruiyot: Sustains injury in late-September 2020. Still to this day is struggling with treatment of it. One of the most consistent and healthy athletes from 2017-then. Now can run 3.29.0, but is a flare-up away from being a non-factor.
Jake Wightman: Sustains injury in early 2023, and misses entire season. Hopefully, will be back to form this year.
Yared Nuguse: Sustains injury at Tokyo 2021 (August), return back to form starts a full calendar year later in August 2022 after battling injuries/setbacks
Jake Heyward: Sustains injury late in 2022, has not raced since
Olli Hoare: Sustains injury in June 2023, has faced multiple setbacks, hopefully able to race at full-strength in Spring
Neil Gourley: Sustains injury in July/August 2023, has faced some setbacks, hopefully able to race at full-strength in Spring
I'm sure this is somewhat of a biased sample, but the commonality amongst most of them is these were thought to be 2-3 months injuries but instead setbacks followed at that stage and the athlete is looking at 8+ months before full training if not more. Of course, the close evidence of Henrik and Filip makes this extra-concerning.
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We'll just have to wait and see how this pans out. Missing indoors will in no way hurt his Olympic racing, but obviously he needs to get healed-up and get back to normal training. With Jakob's huge training background, if he can get well in the near future, he'll have plenty of time to be completely fit for the Games.
Or maybe, starting into professional-type training before his teen years has finally caught up to him. We'll see....
Fair assessment. The concerning part is how bad injuries have picked apart top 1500m talent of late taking them out a year at a time (at least):
Tim Cheruiyot: Sustains injury in late-September 2020. Still to this day is struggling with treatment of it. One of the most consistent and healthy athletes from 2017-then. Now can run 3.29.0, but is a flare-up away from being a non-factor.
Jake Wightman: Sustains injury in early 2023, and misses entire season. Hopefully, will be back to form this year.
Yared Nuguse: Sustains injury at Tokyo 2021 (August), return back to form starts a full calendar year later in August 2022 after battling injuries/setbacks
Jake Heyward: Sustains injury late in 2022, has not raced since
Olli Hoare: Sustains injury in June 2023, has faced multiple setbacks, hopefully able to race at full-strength in Spring
Neil Gourley: Sustains injury in July/August 2023, has faced some setbacks, hopefully able to race at full-strength in Spring
I'm sure this is somewhat of a biased sample, but the commonality amongst most of them is these were thought to be 2-3 months injuries but instead setbacks followed at that stage and the athlete is looking at 8+ months before full training if not more. Of course, the close evidence of Henrik and Filip makes this extra-concerning.
Agreed. And Jakob started intense training at a younger age than his brothers...
Henrik had his best finish in 2012 with 5th at Olympics, made world final in 2013, ran a PB in 2014 but didn't make final in 2015,16 and 17(13th in 5k final 2019).
Filip had his best finish in 2017 with 3rd at WC, ran a PB in 2018, hasn't made the WC/Olympic final since.
Neither of the other brothers lasted long at their peak before injuries plagued them, holding their performances to a lower standard, I hope Jakob can avoid the same fate.
Filip made the 5000m final in Doha 2019 and was still in contention but got a stomach cramp I believe that made him drop out with 500m to go, but your point still stands. Jakob can bounce back from setbacks as we saw him do with illness last year, but getting an achilles injury after the alleged sacrum issues he had in November is at the very least concerning.
Wait but I thought Jakob's training was the safe route. He said on Coffee Club that everybody else is gambling. You're telling me that two double workouts a week, plus a third day of workout (maybe another double workout day) and 110-120 miles per week is a risky way to train?
Henrik had his best finish in 2012 with 5th at Olympics, made world final in 2013, ran a PB in 2014 but didn't make final in 2015,16 and 17(13th in 5k final 2019).
Filip had his best finish in 2017 with 3rd at WC, ran a PB in 2018, hasn't made the WC/Olympic final since.
Neither of the other brothers lasted long at their peak before injuries plagued them, holding their performances to a lower standard, I hope Jakob can avoid the same fate.
I get your point, but you are not giving the full picture, because Henrik pb’ed in both 3 and 5000m in 2023. And Jakob has had a lot of injuries he has come back from quite strongly. But you’ve got a point.
Wait but I thought Jakob's training was the safe route. He said on Coffee Club that everybody else is gambling. You're telling me that two double workouts a week, plus a third day of workout (maybe another double workout day) and 110-120 miles per week is a risky way to train?
Yes, it is ironic, isn’t it… Jakob clearly thinks one of the most important elements in a training regime is to stay uninjured and healthy, but I’m not sure how he does this (except for his outspoken warnings about training to hard / fast, in the short run).
In the TV series “Team Ingebrigtsen” (already a bit old) the brothers seem to dislike slippery surfaces, and one gets the impression of very much flat asphalt and tread mills… We know Narve Nordås «hates» the mills and the asphalt (loves running in the woods without a watch), but I don’t know if Jakob has applied something of this in his training the last years.. (I guess he still does the 200m hills sessions, but asphalt it is..).