Don't believe for one second that she rolled off the couch, started training 2-3 times a week, and, bam, she is a sub-15 5ker.
It's a body of work for 15+ years of hard aerobic training.
The body does not care where the aerobic stimulus comes from, you'll still get the benefits if you built it up over many years. It falls in line with what Gjert said in an interview about early-life training.
So how many swimmers become good runners? And vice versa.
Alan Webb.
Most great runners developed aerobic capacity and general athleticism playing other sports as youths. Crazy I know.
Probably was not indoor. I forgot she is in Florida and they can easily compete outdoors in Feb. Where I am from, meets in February were usually what we called "Polar Bear Meets" - they were actually held outdoors but were part of the "indoor" season. Times were used to qualify for the indoor state meet. When I see February, I immediately think "indoor."
Thanks for clarifying that. Not sure why FastTuohy (rbtrackfan) didn’t include those results in his summary in the first place, since he seems to follow numbers pretty good.
So per her interview, she broke her ankle playing lacrosse before leaving the sport. Since lacrosse is played in the spring, does it appear her Freshman track results may be abbreviated? (Alternatively, she may have broken her ankle at the end of both seasons.)
(1) She also said she was running 65 mpw under solinsky until she broke her foot, and then she/solinsky said she was cross training 2 hours a day.
(2) I personally think she is running more than 30 mpw some weeks now based on her answers during some interviews.
(3) Others have posted on here she was high mileage in highschool but idk how true that is...
(1) After breaking her foot, she said a goal was to come back and help the team. She ran 15:20 off of essentially cross-training and a few workouts. This was probably when she became a big believer in cross-training (she said she didn’t know what cross-training was in high school.)
(2) What leads you to believe, based on interviews, she is running more than 30 mpw?
(3) She said she ran relatively low mileage in high school. She has a (what appears to be a joke) tiktok where she runs a marathon, paced by her friend on a bike; maybe that is where the idea she ran high mileage came from.
Don't believe for one second that she rolled off the couch, started training 2-3 times a week, and, bam, she is a sub-15 5ker.
It's a body of work for 15+ years of hard aerobic training.
The body does not care where the aerobic stimulus comes from, you'll still get the benefits if you built it up over many years. It falls in line with what Gjert said in an interview about early-life training.
So how many swimmers become good runners? And vice versa.
Exactly! Lots of swimmers, soccer players, and lacrosse players with athleticism and long backgrounds of fitness building that start track and become "overnight" sensations. I know of several athletes that spent a summer cycling through Europe or took a semester off to ride across America that returned to running as aerobic beasts. Cardiovascular improvement is cardiovascular improvement no matter the method. Just do enough specificity for running and you will perform well.
Valby isn't an "overnight sensation." She's in her 4th year of college and finally approaching her talent level, unlike Tuohy. If anything the focus on other sports made Valby a late bloomer. Swimming doesn't help running fitness that much beyond giving you a moderately good aerobic base.
(1) Starts running freshman year of high school; breaks ankle playing lacrosse. (2) Hurts hip junior (or senior?) year of high school (doing a backflip.) (3) Various injuries first year of college; almost quits the sport. (4) 2nd year of college, works up to 65mpw of Solinsky’s training, before breaking foot in Indoors. Demonstrates huge potential, running 15:20 in Outdoors. (5) 3rd year of college, develops mysterious injury during Indoors/Outdoors. (6) 4th year of college, has greatest cross-country season ever by a female collegiate. Opens Indoors with collegiate record in 5000m (being the 7th fastest ever Indoor time by a US female.)
(1) Starts running freshman year of high school; breaks ankle playing lacrosse. (2) Hurts hip junior (or senior?) year of high school (doing a backflip.) (3) Various injuries first year of college; almost quits the sport. (4) 2nd year of college, works up to 65mpw of Solinsky’s training, before breaking foot in Indoors. Demonstrates huge potential, running 15:20 in Outdoors. (5) 3rd year of college, develops mysterious injury during Indoors/Outdoors. (6) 4th year of college, has greatest cross-country season ever by a female collegiate. Opens Indoors with collegiate record in 5000m (being the 7th fastest ever Indoor time by a US female.)
(1) Starts running freshman year of high school; breaks ankle playing lacrosse. (2) Demonstrates ‘eye-of-the-tiger’ potential in high-school, running the fastest 2-mile out of Florida up to that time, her junior year. (3) Hurts hip junior (or senior?) year of high school (doing a backflip.) (4) Various injuries first year of college; almost quits the sport. (5) 2nd year of college, works up to 65mpw of Solinsky’s training, before breaking foot in Indoors. Demonstrates huge potential, running 15:20 in Outdoors. (6) 3rd year of college, develops mysterious injury during Indoors/Outdoors. (7) 4th year of college, has greatest cross-country season ever by a female collegiate. Opens Indoors with collegiate record in 5000m (being the 7th fastest ever Indoor time by a US female.)
Exactly! Lots of swimmers, soccer players, and lacrosse players with athleticism and long backgrounds of fitness building that start track and become "overnight" sensations. I know of several athletes that spent a summer cycling through Europe or took a semester off to ride across America that returned to running as aerobic beasts. Cardiovascular improvement is cardiovascular improvement no matter the method. Just do enough specificity for running and you will perform well.
Can you site one lacrosse player who made it as a "overnight sensation" in track?
I coached men's lacrosse and while its a wonderful sport the players were generally slower than the skilled football players.
I raced BMX bikes from the age of 9 until my junior year of high school. I also swam on club teams in the winter for four years during this time. I was running XC and track, ran a sub-5 on very little run training my freshman year of track, then had a few down seasons right when I quit BMX because I grew like six inches all at once.
Starting Jan. 1 of my junior/senior year I started running every day on golf courses and in parks, then won state XC as a senior. I beat all these guys who were running club stuff all year, and had been serious all through junior high and high school.
College came around and I ran D1 for a couple of years, maybe one other kid in my city of a half-million continued in college.
(1) Starts running freshman year of high school; breaks ankle playing lacrosse. (2) Demonstrates ‘eye-of-the-tiger’ potential in high-school, running the fastest 2-mile out of Florida up to that time, her junior year. (3) Hurts hip junior (or senior?) year of high school (doing a backflip.) (4) Various injuries first year of college; almost quits the sport. (5) 2nd year of college, works up to 65mpw of Solinsky’s training, before breaking foot in Indoors. Demonstrates huge potential, running 15:20 in Outdoors. (6) 3rd year of college, continues to demonstrate exceptional ability in an outstanding Cross-country season; develops mysterious injury during Indoors/Outdoors. (7) 4th year of college, has greatest cross-country season ever by a female collegiate. Opens Indoors with collegiate record in 5000m (being the 7th fastest ever Indoor time by a US female.)
Sorry for the repost, but I previously left out key points in this capsulation:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (1) Starts running freshman year of high school; breaks ankle playing lacrosse. (2) Demonstrates ‘eye-of-the-tiger’ potential in high-school, running the fastest 2-mile out of Florida up to that time, her junior year. (3) Hurts hip junior (or senior?) year of high school (doing a backflip.) (4) Various injuries first year of college; almost quits the sport. (5) 2nd year of college, works up to 65mpw of Solinsky’s training, before breaking foot in Indoors. Demonstrates huge potential, running 15:20 in Outdoors, off of mostly cross-training. (6) 3rd year of college, continues to demonstrate exceptional ability in an outstanding cross-country season; develops mysterious injury during Indoors/Outdoors. (7) 4th year of college, has greatest cross-country season ever by a female collegiate. Opens Indoors with collegiate record in 5000m (being the 7th fastest ever Indoor time by a US female.)
So how many swimmers become good runners? And vice versa.
Alan Webb.
Most great runners developed aerobic capacity and general athleticism playing other sports as youths. Crazy I know.
You don't know that he developed aerobic capacity as a result of those sports or because he was naturally gifted in that way - as he had to be to run the times he did.
But success at the top of any sport requires specificity of training. You don't excel at one while training for another completely different sport.