Did they specify the pace on these - if it was Aerobic/Ventilation Threshold (85-88% of Max HR) then it's a doable (although extreme) workout for a high mileage elite marathoner.
Okay, but which of Sean McGorty, Charles Hicks, Mo Ahmed, and Duncan Hamilton is the high mileage elite marathoner?
I think the workout is doable -- every other week, Kipchoge does a 30-40km run at 15-30s slower per KM than his marathon pace and it's on dirt at altitude. But he also runs like 140 miles a week. His KM repeat sessions are 10km-20km of work.
What surprised me the most is that in the Instagram picture about this workout they're all wearing spikes. If they really did this workout I'm guessing they must have switched in to spikes late in the workout?
What surprised me the most is that in the Instagram picture about this workout they're all wearing spikes. If they really did this workout I'm guessing they must have switched in to spikes late in the workout?
What surprised me the most is that in the Instagram picture about this workout they're all wearing spikes. If they really did this workout I'm guessing they must have switched in to spikes late in the workout?
It seems that BTC is just trolling us.
Yeah that was my initial reaction when I saw the post, a Halloween post that is really more of an April Fools post. But reading this thread had me doubting myself with everyone saying it's a perfectly reasonable workout.
Why would they troll IG users at a time they are getting the most scrutiny bc of athletes leaving and having a reputation of overtraining. It wouldn’t be a good look
That equates to 2hrs and 20 minutes plus warm up and cool down probably equals 3 hrs.
Seems silly. Still hoping it’s a typo, otherwise injury in the making.
No, what is silly is training similar to a collegiate 10k runner with a longer long run and expecting to run under 2:10.
It’s a really tedious workout . Do longer reps. More continuous . But it’s not a workout that screams “injury”.
The marathon and the 800m are in particular incredibly specific events . Everything between pretty similar.
For some reason most people in the west afraid to get specific for the marathon. Whether you guys are limited by fear or lack of intellect I am unsure .
Do you know something nobody else does - that is… Jerry is coaching athletes for the marathon?
I don't keep up with stuff much. I'm too busy actually coaching. If he's doing that with middle distance athletes then yeah okay it's a little weird and maybe moronic. But whether the workout is specific or not - large quantities of marathon effort are completely doable for national class endurance athletes.
Also if this is done at threshold effort - then this workout is absolutely moronic.
Doing 16ish miles continuous at marathon effort is fairly standard amongst decent programs and that's a more difficult workouts than what you guys are discussing.
Someone tag Renato. Man he would get a chuckle out of this thread.
The reality is most people have no idea what its like to work with a national class distance runner let alone someone of Bowerman stature.
The egregious stuff done is almost never relevant to volume. Hell, back in the day the CU guys used to get into marathon effort on many of their easy days.
The one thing Jerry does with them (or at least did) that was rather insane is some of the indoor speed sessions they did up at altitude.
Jerry is a damn good coach. It sucked to watch him back Shelby and the move to Eugene was super dumb. But the people in here taking shots at that workout just don't understand the sport at a high level.
Why would they troll IG users at a time they are getting the most scrutiny bc of athletes leaving and having a reputation of overtraining. It wouldn’t be a good look
I don’t think they give a flying shat about what some nobody thinks about their trolling or “criticism”. You’re aren’t competing at the global stage. They are. Your voice and opinion doesn’t matter to anyone who isn’t a crybaby hater on here.
Yeah that was my initial reaction when I saw the post, a Halloween post that is really more of an April Fools post. But reading this thread had me doubting myself with everyone saying it's a perfectly reasonable workout.
Definitely a typo or an intentional Halloween joke because 35 x 1K would be "scary." For anyone thinking it's a reasonable workout, I'd argue that they are on the track, in spikes, and not training for a marathon.
Firstly did they specify the pace. If its at marathon pace its not that quick because marathon still has another 7km left to it. If its at marathon pace then its not hard because its below threshold. Threshold is halfmarathon pace or slightly quicker.
Secondly with the rest if its 60sec then its not that bad for 35x1km cause the pace is slow and so there isn't the areobic fatigue if it was faster
What pace would that be at? Even at marathon that's an insane workout.
No it’s not
Correct, at marathon pace that's not an insane workout. Many marathoners run Continuous 30-35K @ marathon pace, so 35x1K at marathon pace would actually be easier.
Correct, at marathon pace that's not an insane workout. Many marathoners run Continuous 30-35K @ marathon pace, so 35x1K at marathon pace would actually be easier.
I know I'd feel great after I banged out the first 6, knowing I only had 29 more to go.
That equates to 2hrs and 20 minutes plus warm up and cool down probably equals 3 hrs.
Seems silly. Still hoping it’s a typo, otherwise injury in the making.
No, what is silly is training similar to a collegiate 10k runner with a longer long run and expecting to run under 2:10.
It’s a really tedious workout . Do longer reps. More continuous . But it’s not a workout that screams “injury”.
The marathon and the 800m are in particular incredibly specific events . Everything between pretty similar.
For some reason most people in the west afraid to get specific for the marathon. Whether you guys are limited by fear or lack of intellect I am unsure .
Except none of those guys is training for a marathon