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8 months ago 10/27/2023 12:59pm EDT

re: tlm1959

tlm1959 wrote:
I am trying figure out how Israel is an apartheid state. Is it possible that the my defintion of apartheid is misguided?
Arab Israelis (Palestinian citizens of Israel) are free to vote, stand for election, sit in the Israeli Government, serve in the military, work in the police force, etc.
Gaza and West Bank Palestinians are not Israeli and don't live in Israel.
Recently, an Arab party was part of an Israeli ruling coalition.
My guess is that the apartheid claims come from a disputed terroritory.
In Area C, which is controlled by Israel, there is a situation that could be compared to apartheid because it is two populations living under different sets of laws for each. But that is not part of Israel, it’s territory under dispute.

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The occupied lands are not under dispute. They belong to Palestine but Israel occupies them. Looks like they plan on annexing them as soon as they can get the Palestinians out

8 months ago 10/27/2023 1:02pm EDT

re: Newname

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You can criticize the American govt in America.

You just can't criticize Israel.

Kind of weird

8 months ago 10/27/2023 1:12pm EDT

re: Newname

Newname, since you clearly support the Palestinian cause, can you please explain what Israel is supposed to do in this situation? Also, what do you propose to do to have peace in the Middle East? I always like to hear opinions from both sides.

8 months ago 10/27/2023 2:18pm EDT

re: MyGollyMolly

MyGollyMolly wrote:
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Doubt that's a real picture. It's not in the link. It's photoshopped.

8 months ago 10/27/2023 2:59pm EDT

re: What's the Answer?

What's the Answer? wrote:
Newname, since you clearly support the Palestinian cause, can you please explain what Israel is supposed to do in this situation? Also, what do you propose to do to have peace in the Middle East? I always like to hear opinions from both sides.

End the occupation, the oppression, the genocide. Give back all the land and homes stolen from non Jews. Pay back the God knows how many tens of billions of $$ extorted from the US taxpayer by the "Lobby". One state with everyone having the same rights. Reparations to the Palestinians

8 months ago 10/27/2023 3:53pm EDT

re: What's the Answer?

What's the Answer? wrote:
Newname, since you clearly support the Palestinian cause, can you please explain what Israel is supposed to do in this situation? Also, what do you propose to do to have peace in the Middle East? I always like to hear opinions from both sides.

Stop supporting the constant brutal Israeli attacks on the Palestine people, and stop reposting their fake news.

Let the Palestine people have their inalienable right to live in peace like everyone else.

Put an immediate stop to the constant Israeli attacks on the Palestine people.

8 months ago 10/27/2023 3:55pm EDT

re: Newname

Newname wrote:
End the occupation, the oppression, the genocide. Give back all the land and homes stolen from non Jews. Pay back the God knows how many tens of billions of $ extorted from the US taxpayer by the "Lobby". One state with everyone having the same rights. Reparations to the Palestinians

Yes. This is what needs to be done.

8 months ago 10/27/2023 3:59pm EDT

re: Newname

Israel argues that since they took the land from belligerents in War that by international law allows them to hold Area C. I am not arguing whether this is correct, but the area is under dispute. Many current issues would have been avoided if the Arabs had not consistently lost Wars and ceded terrority. Some liberal Jews lament keeping the terroritory won in Wars.

8 months ago 10/27/2023 5:22pm EDT

re: tlm1959

tlm1959 wrote:
Israel argues that since they took the land from belligerents in War that by international law allows them to hold Area C. I am not arguing whether this is correct, but the area is under dispute. Many current issues would have been avoided if the Arabs had not consistently lost Wars and ceded terrority. Some liberal Jews lament keeping the terroritory won in Wars.

The lands taken in 1967 were in a war in which Israel attacked Syria, Egypt, and Jordan and gobbled up land and began moving Jews onto the land in a matter of days. This is 100% illegal under international law. It is illegal to take land via war.

8 months ago 10/27/2023 5:47pm EDT

re: Imeanlike

Imeanlike wrote:
really sad wrote:
Really saddened as a palestinian and regular poster to see that most people on this website support Israeli apartheid.
That’s crazy. Really sad to see everyone in America live on land taken from American Indians by pioneers. Thousands of native Americans were slaughtered and kids killed in religious boarding schools. But it ain’t my problem! And the Middle East sure ain’t my problem to get fed up about! Not rooting for Islamic terrorists that’s for sure.

Documentation, please?

8 months ago 10/27/2023 11:42pm EDT

re: Imeanlike

Imeanlike wrote:
really sad wrote:
Really saddened as a palestinian and regular poster to see that most people on this website support Israeli apartheid.
That’s crazy. Really sad to see everyone in America live on land taken from American Indians by pioneers. Thousands of native Americans were slaughtered and kids killed in religious boarding schools. But it ain’t my problem! And the Middle East sure ain’t my problem to get fed up about! Not rooting for Islamic terrorists that’s for sure.

Please give the details on where and when these thousands of slaughters occur?

8 months ago 10/27/2023 11:43pm EDT

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8 months ago 10/28/2023 10:38pm EDT

re: MyGollyMolly

8 months ago 10/28/2023 10:40pm EDT

re: Newname

Newname wrote:
tlm1959 wrote:
I am trying figure out how Israel is an apartheid state. Is it possible that the my defintion of apartheid is misguided?
Arab Israelis (Palestinian citizens of Israel) are free to vote, stand for election, sit in the Israeli Government, serve in the military, work in the police force, etc.
Gaza and West Bank Palestinians are not Israeli and don't live in Israel.
Recently, an Arab party was part of an Israeli ruling coalition.
My guess is that the apartheid claims come from a disputed terroritory.
In Area C, which is controlled by Israel, there is a situation that could be compared to apartheid because it is two populations living under different sets of laws for each. But that is not part of Israel, it’s territory under dispute.
Link:www.arabnews.com/node/1227956
The occupied lands are not under dispute. They belong to Palestine but Israel occupies them. Looks like they plan on annexing them as soon as they can get the Palestinians out

SCHOOLED.

8 months ago 10/29/2023 6:37am EDT

re: Newname

Newname wrote:
What's the Answer? wrote:
Newname, since you clearly support the Palestinian cause, can you please explain what Israel is supposed to do in this situation? Also, what do you propose to do to have peace in the Middle East? I always like to hear opinions from both sides.
End the occupation, the oppression, the genocide. Give back all the land and homes stolen from non Jews. Pay back the God knows how many tens of billions of $ extorted from the US taxpayer by the "Lobby". One state with everyone having the same rights. Reparations to the Palestinians

There is already one state with everyone having the same rights -- Jew, Christian, Muslim, Druze, Baha'i -- men and women -- LGB and straight -- transgender and cisgender.

That's Israel. No other state in the Middle East can claim a fraction of that.

There are those who absolutely reject the right of Israel to exist, and devote their existence to wiping it out, from the river to the sea.

That's Hamas, the PA, and all their subjects who dance in the streets when those terrorist organizations mass-murder Jews.

That they're also Muslim supremacists who oppress women and throw LGBT people off buildings should not be a surprise.

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