General question - are there certain vitamins/minerals that are only available in veggies? Or can those vitamins be obtained through meat/fruit, and without having to compensate through multivitamins?
So 30 seconds of googling said Vitamin C is the main vitamin unobtainable from meat, but obviously found in many fruits. Interesting…..
So why the F do doctors and nutritionists harp so much on eating veggies?
Vitamin C is not unobtainable from meat. It is plentiful in organ meat, which was unfortunately eliminated from the industrialized diet. You can also get it from skeletal meat that isn't overcooked.
You don't need more than 1 serving or so of a fruit or vegetable to replace it. 100% daily value is a massive overestimate, to provide a nice safety margin.
There is no other vitamin or mineral difficult to get from even industrial meat. Not one. Challenge vegetablists to name what's so "nutritious" about their fave food, they can't do it. They'll just insult you or repeat the same old tropes. "Balanced" diet or whatever.
Doctors/nutritionists have to say certain things to keep their licenses, whether it makes any sense or not. This is a straight-up capture of the medical field by certain food-industry sectors.
They've got people eating breakfast the same way. You don't need breakfast, you wake up with your muscles and liver full of glucose and ready to go. But a doctor who explains this to you could risk getting in trouble. Eat your balanced breakfast with wheaty-O's, milk, eggs, and toast or else.
that's not how they operate. Like most US scams, they capture the regulators and let the big corporations plug the product. Who needs force when there's a critical mass of idiots out there?
Not seeing an argument for the "nutritious"-ness of vegetables, if you intended one. At best an insult, as I predicted. It remains established that vitamin C is the only thing you could arguably need them for even a little bit. But pills are better and more economical for that.
“Forever. My parents were 18 when I was born. My mother didn’t even know who Dr. Spock was in those years, so I was the kid who was just, ‘rah, no way, no way. I want a steak. I want a potato,’” Michaels said. “And I just pushed it away and mom said fine. So, here I am. What the f—k can I tell ya? I think it’s the key to life.” Michaels, 77, has spoken about his unusual diet in the past, noting last year that former NBC Sports sideline reporter Michele Tafoya tricked him into eating a Brussel sprout — the only time he has knowingly consumed a vegetable. But on the podcast, Andrew Marchand said he had heard Michaels drank a V8 — which has vegetables in it. “The eight vegetables in V8…I hate all of them by themselves,” Michaels explained. “But if you put them together with enough sugar and enough sodium and ice, I can down it. But it pales in comparison to Michele Tafoya once sneaking a Brussel sprout — she said this was a French fry try this…I knew right away I had been set up — I did ingest a little bit of it…I’ve had one morsel of a Brussel sprout and a V8.
If a burger comes with a leaf of lettuce, do you throw the lettuce into the woods? “I have them re-plate it.” You do? “I don’t want to have the residue. Sometimes, the lettuce might leak a little bit.” Isn’t that residue just water? “I understand, but it’s touched it.”
Thinking vegetables are unappetising must be a cultural thing in America, along the lines with majority of males being circumcised or the way that everyone in Hollywood movies holds pens and pencils which looks super weird to a European.
For example tomatoes (botanically that's a fruit but come on they're vegetables). They are delicious! IRL, some people are indifferent, others are like – tomatoes are the tastiest thing out there. But nobody hates them. Yet I've read online that quite a few Americans hate them and even keep on hating when they grow up. Some going as far as to eat pizzas without tomato sauce and never using ketchup.
I mostly agree, but eggs are very good for you. Often for breakfast I'll have 4 egg yolks and 2 more eggs, fried in butter, with a few bits of mushrooms, spinach, and bacon added for taste.
As my wife said, theres a reason why people often need to season or cook their meat.
Yeah, I knew this pushback was coming. I season meat that I cook, but I can tell you that a hamburger or steak without any seasoning will still taste good to me. Same goes with seafood. I also like and often eat bread without butter.
Trust me, I know many of you love veggies and I don't want to debate this any further. I just thought Al Michael's story was interesting and I could understand where he was coming from.
As my wife said, theres a reason why people often need to season or cook their meat.
Yeah, I knew this pushback was coming. I season meat that I cook, but I can tell you that a hamburger or steak without any seasoning will still taste good to me. Same goes with seafood. I also like and often eat bread without butter.
Trust me, I know many of you love veggies and I don't want to debate this any further. I just thought Al Michael's story was interesting and I could understand where he was coming from.
There are plenty of veggies that taste great raw. But aside from my your own personal preferences for seasoned or unseasoned foods I was simply poking fun at your absurd statement as if it was making some kind of point re veggies vs meat or other foods. People combine ingredients and season food because it tastes good, however, it is not always out of some necessity to make something edible.