Guessing insurance company didn’t agree with cancellation.
Why should the insurance company pay for this mess? They don't control the weather and weather related cancellations were probably baked into the registration form signed by participants.
Although your post has received about 90% downvotes, you are essentially correct -- not because the insurance company doesn't control the weather, but because it appears from both the online "Marathon Participant Guide" (page 14) and recent remarks from the president of Twin Cities in Motion (the marathon's "parent organization") that race registrants waived their right to a refund in the event that the race was cancelled because weather or other conditions presented a "danger" to participants or the community at large:
CATHY WURZER: Some folks might want a refund. Any word on refunds for entrants?
DEAN ORTON: Right now, that's one of our top priorities. We're working through that process. As we know, if you run other events and it's clear in the registration, these outdoor events, there's risk. And they sign off in a no refund policy. And it's very specific, and everyone checking a box.
MPR News host Cathy Wurzer talked with Twin Cities in Motion President Dean Orton and Andrea Haus, community and marketing manager at Mill City Running and Saint City running.
I will add that page 14 of the Marathon Participant Guide states that the race organizers reserved not only the right to cancel without refund in the event of "dangerous" weather conditions, but also the right to cancel without providing any race credits. Although the race insurer may choose to provide some money for refunds (perhaps to settle possible claims by the organizers), I doubt that it has any obligation to do so.
Please note that I have not seen the registration application that was actually signed by participants. If anyone has a copy of that, I hope that you'll post it on this thread.
A separate question remains as to whether so-called "black flag" conditions (which are the only heat-related conditions listed as a basis for cancellation in the Participant Guide) actually existed during the marathon. From what I've seen, it appears that "Black Flag" conditions (as widely defined elsewhere) did not exist until about 2:00 pm (six hours after the scheduled start time of the marathon); the Participant Guide itself states that the race and the finishing clock stop at 2:15 pm). Is that a basis for cancelling the entire marathon? And what would be a legitimate basis for canceling the 10-miler?
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Why should the insurance company pay for this mess? They don't control the weather and weather related cancellations were probably baked into the registration form signed by participants.
Although your post has received about 90% downvotes, you are essentially correct -- not because the insurance company doesn't control the weather, but because it appears from both the online "Marathon Participant Guide" (page 14) and recent remarks from the president of Twin Cities in Motion (the marathon's "parent organization") that race registrants waived their right to a refund in the event that the race was cancelled because weather or other conditions presented a "danger" to participants or the community at large:
CATHY WURZER: Some folks might want a refund. Any word on refunds for entrants?
DEAN ORTON: Right now, that's one of our top priorities. We're working through that process. As we know, if you run other events and it's clear in the registration, these outdoor events, there's risk. And they sign off in a no refund policy. And it's very specific, and everyone checking a box.
I will add that page 14 of the Marathon Participant Guide states that the race organizers reserved not only the right to cancel without refund in the event of "dangerous" weather conditions, but also the right to cancel without providing any race credits. Although the race insurer may choose to provide some money for refunds (perhaps to settle possible claims by the organizers), I doubt that it has any obligation to do so.
Please note that I have not seen the registration application that was actually signed by participants. If anyone has a copy of that, I hope that you'll post it on this thread.
A separate question remains as to whether so-called "black flag" conditions (which are the only heat-related conditions listed as a basis for cancellation in the Participant Guide) actually existed during the marathon. From what I've seen, it appears that "Black Flag" conditions (as widely defined elsewhere) did not exist until about 2:00 pm (six hours after the scheduled start time of the marathon); the Participant Guide itself states that the race and the finishing clock stop at 2:15 pm). Is that a basis for cancelling the entire marathon? And what would be a legitimate basis for canceling the 10-miler?
It is interesting that they claim their policy is that if they cancel one race they will cancel all races. Surely they could have conducted the 10 mile race safely in terms of weather. Were they worried that a horde of marathoners would flood the 10 mile course?
It is interesting that they claim their policy is that if they cancel one race they will cancel all races. Surely they could have conducted the 10 mile race safely in terms of weather. Were they worried that a horde of marathoners would flood the 10 mile course?
The course could handle the 8k runners starting around 7, why couldn’t they handle another 8k an hour later? Let everyone run the 10k.
It is interesting that they claim their policy is that if they cancel one race they will cancel all races. Surely they could have conducted the 10 mile race safely in terms of weather. Were they worried that a horde of marathoners would flood the 10 mile course?
The course could handle the 8k runners starting around 7, why couldn’t they handle another 8k an hour later? Let everyone run the 10k.
