I watched her pikes peak ascent video where she was shocked that she felt bad doing 7k of vert starting at 7k elevation. With a whole 1 day of acclimation.. Has she never heard of altitude?
If she is going to take mountain trail running seriously she needs to move to the mountains. I’m confused as to why that’s not obvious to her.
She lives in Seattle. Plenty of hills there. The mountains are just a short drive away for even longer runs on trails and some altitude.
“Spironolactone and canrenone are Specified Substances in the class of Diuretics and Masking Agents and are prohibited at all times under the USADA Protocol for Olympic testing”. So, the “it was acne cream” defense, is just like Baumann’s “someone musta spiked my toothpaste” defense or Shelby’s burrito. The only diff is that Baumann and Shelby deny it, while Ostrander basically says, “oopsie, my bad!”
You think no one has ever heard of Allie Ostrander? You must be either a young teenager or someone who pays very little attention to running.
I only know who she is because of this site, and I’m a woman. For some reason a bunch of gross pervy guys here spend hours of their life on Instagram and YouTube every day, instead of having families or working or out running.
“Spironolactone and canrenone are Specified Substances in the class of Diuretics and Masking Agents and are prohibited at all times under the USADA Protocol for Olympic testing”. So, the “it was acne cream” defense, is just like Baumann’s “someone musta spiked my toothpaste” defense or Shelby’s burrito. The only diff is that Baumann and Shelby deny it, while Ostrander basically says, “oopsie, my bad!”
Any idea why masking agents are banned?
You pick an excerpt from the USADA report but omit their preceding statement: "Ostrander, 26, tested positive for canrenone, a metabolite of spironolactone, as the result of an out-of-competition urine sample collected on March 30, 2023. Ostrander’s violation resulted from her use of an oral acne medication containing spironolactone for which she had a prescription. However, Ostrander failed to obtain a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE) for the medication."
Since USADA gave her a 4 month slap on the wrist, noting that she had a PRESCRIPTION, it seems pretty clear they do not believe she is a doper.
It seems deliberately dishonest to omit that key finding just so you can call her an admitted doper.
Actually, while I detest cheaters, and I may be suspicious at times, I usually extend benefit of the doubt towards just about everyone when the cheating is not proven, which is more than ~99% of Letsrunners. However, when someone who clearly knows about doping and testing protocols fails a test for a banned substance and they also admit to it, then I am pretty sure they are guilty of the offense. That's not trolling or heckling, that's just being 100% truthful.
Continue being a fan of cheaters. I, on the other hand, will continue being against cheaters and for a clean sport.
She took an acne medication that is a masking agent and goes on Youtube to say that? I believe her and I usually don't believe people who test positive for banned substance. Yes you are heckling by calling her an admitted doper and cheat.
If it makes you feel good to believe sweet little lies from a banned doper, then have at it. Just today, off the top of my head, Nuguse, Wiley, Ingibritson, Assefe, Kipchoge, most of India, and most of Kenya, have been heckled as cheats on LR. Have they been caught and banned for using a banned substance? No. Have they admitted to taking any banned substance? No. That is why it is heckling in those cases.
Has Allie Ostrander been caught and banned, and has she admitted to taking the substance? Yes and yes! That's clearcut doping and cheating. The unanswered question is what substance was she masking? She was likely able to escape a worse banning. The anti-doping folks typically take it easier on first time offenders.
Just because you may like her personality or think she's cute, that does not make her innocent, nor should not compel you to believe her obvious deceptions. Given the normal anti-PED stance of the forum, it is insane to me that while there is rampant speculation about other instances, here in this PROVEN case, there isn't significant public shaming. I guess that is because no one sees her achievement, influence, or sponsorship lasting much longer anyway, which would make sense.
You think no one has ever heard of Allie Ostrander? You must be either a young teenager or someone who pays very little attention to running.
I only know who she is because of this site, and I’m a woman. For some reason a bunch of gross pervy guys here spend hours of their life on Instagram and YouTube every day, instead of having families or working or out running.
I was just being brief by quoting the relevant part of the article I linked, not deliberately dishonest. The details of how she went about doping are secondary. To her credit, her tactics were more thoughtful and effective than most.
I only know who she is because of this site, and I’m a woman. For some reason a bunch of gross pervy guys here spend hours of their life on Instagram and YouTube every day, instead of having families or working or out running.
So what you’re saying is, you paid zero attention to NCAA women’s distance running from about 2015-2018. She was winning or contending for everything.
I only know who she is because of this site, and I’m a woman. For some reason a bunch of gross pervy guys here spend hours of their life on Instagram and YouTube every day, instead of having families or working or out running.
So what you’re saying is, you paid zero attention to NCAA women’s distance running from about 2015-2018. She was winning or contending for everything.
She has a PR of about 15:30. She really wasn't contending for anything worthwhile.
You think no one has ever heard of Allie Ostrander? You must be either a young teenager or someone who pays very little attention to running.
I only know who she is because of this site, and I’m a woman. For some reason a bunch of gross pervy guys here spend hours of their life on Instagram and YouTube every day, instead of having families or working or out running.
Shouldn't you be cooking dinner and taking care of some kids right now?
You know, when it comes down to it, she just isn't getting the results for me to suspect her of actual doping. Like, if she's doping, she's really not good at it. But my daughter watches her on youtube all the time, and I can see that it might make sense for her to have acne prescriptions. And yeah, that's how it works.
15:20 indoors which at the time was top 3 or so all time indoors, and pre super shoes. All American in XC with a 2nd and 6th, 3 time NCAA steeplechase champion and ran at World Championships in Doha. U20 World Champion in trail running.
I only know who she is because of this site, and I’m a woman. For some reason a bunch of gross pervy guys here spend hours of their life on Instagram and YouTube every day, instead of having families or working or out running.
So what you’re saying is, you paid zero attention to NCAA women’s distance running from about 2015-2018. She was winning or contending for everything.
I plead guilty. I paid zero attention to NCAA women's distance running from 2015-2018. I'm one of the many who don't know who this is. Remove this very Message Board from existence, and like the great JS, she also disappears from view. Is she considered attractive? Is that what this is about? I literally don't know what or whether she has ever run nor what she looks like.
I was just being brief by quoting the relevant part of the article I linked, not deliberately dishonest. The details of how she went about doping are secondary. To her credit, her tactics were more thoughtful and effective than most.
Why do you consider it irrelevant to include the FACT that she had a doctor's prescription and USADA would seem to believe her claim that it was not deliberate doping to gain an advantage so they only banned her for a few months.
she didn't dope you idiot! She to spironolactone, which is a medication for high blood pressure, acne, lots of legitimate uses ; . It should not be on any list as it doesn't aid in performance it actually has the opposite effect! They say it is on a banned list because it is a diuretic and can mask banned drugs, but it is a weak diuretic at best so I shouldn't even be on the list! Ollie did not dope!
Spironolactone, sold under the brand name Aldactone among others, is a medication that is primarily used to treat fluid build-up due to heart failure, liver scarring, or kidney disease. It is also used in the treatment of hig...
Her boat has sailed already for elite level running in T&F. Too many fast American gals and now even more super fast Africans. 15:30 5000 is pretty much nothing these days. Bare minimum is sub 15. WR marathon is now 5:02 pace which is on par with well under sub 14 5000.
