Jerry Schumacher is a terrible NCAA Coach.

Alot of coaches look good on paper until….

“Stay mad and slow” LR in a nutshell…

You are both incorrect.

Rule #1: Don't make a comment without knowledge on the subject in discussion.

grump duck is correct. Just goes to show the people who post on here giving these opinions, they have no idea how things actually run because they aren’t/ weren’t at that level. Before my freshman year was the only time our assistant coach sent out a rough training outline to follow when they sent out all the other information on stuff we needed to get done in order to practice. I think they did this with every freshman coming into our program, we all received this in June going into our freshman year. The years after that, nothing.

on the topic of the podcast, dominic wears 'vivo barefoots' to church? and even more weirdly to sleep?!?

Just the type of weirdo that likes connor burns

Or both!

They aren't going to run 3:33 & 13;15 next year .

Jerry will have success in the NCAA sooner or later again. It just takes a while to figure out whom to put how on his famous diet.

Coaches can't run practices or give mandatory work during certain times of the year, summer included. They are usually allowed to send optional training plans but nuanced rules on communication during the summer can vary by division, conference, and school.

Ironic that he isn't seeing much success in a situatuon completely devoid of drug testing.

I wonder if they enrolled in summer session like 99% of incoming football and basketball players?

can someone tell me how larry josh edwards is doing at oregon. im too stupid to navigate results on milesplit -- da west virginia enjoyer

it is against ncaa rules for a coach to give a training plan to someone who is not yet enrolled in the school... that would be an incoming freshmen

you are in fact incorrect.

just because they did it doesn't mean it's ncaa legal... actually never said it didn't happen just that it's not okay according to the ncaa...

Hahaha summer base mileage has been the topic of thousands of LRC posts, spanning dozens of threads.

Please provide the NCAA bylaw that prohibits sending summer training to incoming freshman.

The only stipulation for off-season training is you cannot REQUIRE the athlete to do it or monitor their training (even following online logs would be considered monitoring). On top of that, incoming freshman can work with the strength staff at their incoming school....the only stipulation is that the strength staff cannot report to the coach who is coming in, what their strength numbers are, ect.

From the NCAA rules book:
13.11.3.8 Voluntary Summer Conditioning -- Sports Other Than Football. In sports other than football, a prospective student-athlete may engage in voluntary summer workouts conducted by an institution's strength and conditioning coach who is not a countable coach in any sport and may receive workout apparel (on an issuance and retrieval
basis), provided the prospective student-athlete has signed a National Letter of Intent or the institution's written offer of admission and/or financial aid, or the institution has received the prospective student-athlete's financial deposit in response to its offer of admission. [D] (Adopted: 4/29/04, Revised: 7/20/04, 1/14/08, 1/19/13 effective 8/1/13, 10/21/13, 4/28/16,

So please provide documentation of your assertion. It's absurd to think that an incoming student athlete can workout with the strength staff at the school, but Jerry sending a training plan to a kid would be a violation. And if it is, every NCAA coach violates this rule and is not trying to hide it (including myself).

speak to your compliance person

I agree it's absurd but that's what my compliance guy bangs on every year. strength coaches are allowed to do it (not sure about incoming freshman) but not me.

obviously these rules are subject to interpretation but I'm not making this up. my compliance person insists that it's a no no.

I also agree that nearly every coach in the ncaa is giving plans for summer workouts.. as you know the rules are not designed with distance running in mind...

maybe it's just how my compliance person wants to handle it. but that's where i am getting my information, my compliance person.

I'll agree some compliance officers interpret rules much differently than others. I recently had a few kids graduate/walk in December that could have competed through the indoor championships (once your season starts, you can compete through that championship season). The prior compliance officers said they were done, our new one said they could have competed through March. So it's frustrating how its not as clean as it should be.

The funny part is admin's and the NCAA that have many of these rules in place "in he best interests of the student athlete" but don't realize the kids WANT direction & guidance---that's why they choose you and your school. But most admin's don't understand our sport either, and think we're just teaching kids how to run in circles.