Any US HS programs doing double threshold?

Bump. How’d double threshold workout for all these high school kids? I don’t know a single high schooler that did it effectively and saw meaningful progress that they wouldn’t have seen if they just kept a normal progression. Most were slower and/or injured.

I’ve recently graduated, but it went terribly. Cross country season every performed at or worse then expected of them, with me and our top runner getting extremely injured. Track season was even worse, where once again our top 4 runners in the 1600 all got injured at the beggining of the season and middle of the season. It wasn’t enough to help us improve but enough work and lack of recovery to help us get injured constantly. Out of our 1600 runners I was the only one who improved and it was only by a second. In the end it’s a waste of time on such low mileage. For reference I never got injured prior to the double T training.

i tried double threshold my senior year of highschool for a while, all it did was absolutely fry my training. I did it right too. easy marathon pace in the morning, halfmarathon or 10k in the evening. doesn't matter because it put me in the position of running a 5:08 mile when I was already a 4:40 miler. stopped it and instantly dropped back down to 4:40, but i was pretty weak the entire season after all of the effort put into double threshold during the indoor phase.

Question for Malmo (or others with that in depth view), Given the long term success of runners doing doubles, including accomplished high schoolers, why is the recent Double Threshold approach not faring well with high school runners? Thanks in advance.

no one cares above Newberry Park anymore. Congrats on destroying a dynasty

Yeah DT requires a lot of volume. Not bashing you but people who implement it first need to read Bakkens guide to it. DT requires 70-80+ mpw to get good results. That milage is still pretty low but you can work with it if you are smart.

More volume is needed. Most high school programs even the "grinder" ones dont do the required milage to get good benefits from it.

I coached a couple kids that incorporated it into their winter training. We didn't do it during the season though. Probably did 7 or 8 DTs in total.

One of em won state in the 3200, the other PR'd by ~35 seconds in the 3200.

I think more than the actual workouts, the true benefit it gave them was a sound understanding of how they recover. It let them become more in tune with their bodies. They trained through a lot of races on tired legs, but understood that the fitness would be there and as long as they were getting enough sleep & doing soft surface / easy paced runs when they needed to, the pop would come back and they were ready to run fast.

Granted, it was their idea. Wouldn't have suggested it if they weren't already interested in it.

I know Belen Jesuit in Miami had been doing it for over a year. They posted about it on Milesplit.