What Sara Hall doesn't want to admit about the marathon trials...

Who says she quickly regretted anything?

Yonkers, 1964.

Excellent knowledge

(Cough, cough) Seidel

Yea I understand not what the thread was about?

When you choose your marathon trials site and date, you need to pay attention to what kind of Olympic marathon site and date you have. How is Orlando in February similar to Paris in August? Well, it may or may not be similar. Right now, Paris has 18-20 C weather, considerably cooler than Orlando typically is in February, and much less humid. However, next week, on the 10th and 11th, one year before the men's and women's Olympic marathons, the prediction is for up to 34 C, 93 degrees. So, Orlando could end up much hotter or much cooler than Paris, but the early February weather there on average is similar to Paris on August if you set aside the humidity. In my experience, running in Paris in July in a previous year was considerably easier than in Central Florida in winter.

And Boston, 1976.

Someone else mentioned Pittsburgh (presumably, 2000). The problem there wasn't the heat. The problem was that the American marathoners sucked. (David Morris, the only guy in the field who had run an international-caliber qualifying time, had a horrible day and DNFed.) USATF also insisted, solely in the interests of television viewers, that no runner with an "A Level" (2:14) Olympic Qualifying Time would be named to the U.S. Olympic marathon team if he finished behind an OT qualifier who lacked the "A Level" time. A similar thing happened in the women's OT that year (which I believe was in North Carolina). As a result, a single "B" qualifier was named to each of the men's and women's U.S. Olympic teams. It wasn't a big loss; the U.S. marathoners sucked until K.K. got his citizenship and decided to run as a U.S. citizen.

I'm not sure what Sarah is complaining about; perhaps she had hoped to run an Olympic Qualifier at the OT. (My impression is that, unlike the scandalous WA rule that previously enabled third-rate U.S. marathoners to qualify for the Olympics by finishing in the top three at the U.S. trials, U.S. marathoners will be subject to the same standards imposed on everyone else in the world.)

All good.....while some athletes naturally perform in differing weather conditions than others, this is all true when it comes to hills vs flat.

Are the courses close with turns and hills?

Now, the thing is, for Paris, everyone has 12 months to get used to heat, time zone, course features etc.....

It's not remotely the same.

1) The course in Orlando isn't hilly.

2) We are already guarnateed 3 women's spots. The men likely will have 3 as well.

Other than that, you nailed it!!!

PS. If' it's 90 at 12 noon, I guarantee you the start time will be moved up.

PS. What the OP is referring to, and many people don't seem to realize, is that the 2016 trials which were run in hot conditions ended up producing a very good Olympic team.

Hmm. I looked at last year and the first week of Feb in Orlando had highs of 82, 82, 66, 70, 70, 73 and 75. Where is the freak out over the unsafe weather coming from? August in Paris is far warmer than these temps. Or is the goal to make the team and that's it?

Are you saying the team would have been much different if they had run in cooler conditions? I doubt it. And maybe shalane wouldn’t gotten wrecked

The important thing to know here, is that there are whiners and there are winners.

What the hell do you think happens to human lungs when they are used in the manner of a professional athlete?

They get damaged and pushed beyond their natural limits, of course you have more athletes suffering from asthma compared to the general population.

I’ll tell you, since you obviously don’t know anything about it, but still like to pretend how smart you are, that from personal experience; you cannot even do basic intervals properly without an inhaler if you got asthma, and you can forget about racing, unless you wanna seriously hurt yourself.

Why are the U.S. women guaranteed three spots?

More to the point, is there someplace where the rules for participating in the 2024 Olympic marathon are actually written down, in their entirety? I haven't found them anywhere. For example, although WA suggests that there are only two ways to qualify for the Olympic marathon, there are registration deadlines not only for qualified athletes in the marathon, but also for various "unqualified" athletes and others who, for some reason, have not met either of the two qualifying standards. I also haven't seen any rules allowing individual countries to substitute unqualified athletes for qualified athletes, although random conversations suggest that this is being allowed in the marathon. (Offhand, I'm not aware of other athletics events that are allowing this practice.) On at least one past occasion, this was done for the U.S. (and Japan) by designating their Olympic Trials marathons as "gold label" races (or some such appellation) to allow otherwise unqualified athletes to participate in the Olympics based solely on their places at their own country's Olympic trials.

Neurodivergent, you say? Boy have I got a TUE for you!