That’s because you’re not very talented. Do you really think Monson has so much more talent than Shelby that a clean Monson can run faster than a doped Shelby?? Either Monson is doping now, or Shelby was clean back then.
Let's look at the best white runners ever:
1) Monson 14:19, coached by NOP Ritz
2) Shobukhova 14:23, banned doper
3) Houlihan 14:23, banned doper
4) Schweizer 14:26, burrito babe
5) Klosterhalfen 14:26, coached by banned doper Salazar
If you really think the one at the very top neither is the best talent nor a doper, I don't know what to tell you.
Kiplimo wasn’t wearing super spikes when he ran 26:33 either. I guess he was in sub 26 shape and blew his chance at the world record because he wore the wrong shoes. /s
He ran 57:30 for the half marathon. It is not crazy at all to say he was in world record 10K shape or close in that race. Shelbo is nowhere close to Kiplimo
He was already in world record shape without the shoes. He closed in 13:06 meaning he would’ve been near/under 26:11 in a better-paced race. Add super spikes to that and he’s way under 26. Not believable at all.
He ran 57:30 for the half marathon. It is not crazy at all to say he was in world record 10K shape or close in that race. Shelbo is nowhere close to Kiplimo
He was already in world record shape without the shoes. He closed in 13:06 meaning he would’ve been near/under 26:11 in a better-paced race. Add super spikes to that and he’s way under 26. Not believable at all.
13:06 is slower than World Record pace. Most people put superspikes at 1-1.5 second per K at these paces. I’ll give you 15 seconds, which is high but whatever. That would put Kiplimo at 13:19/12:59 ~ 26:18 and Shelbo running 14:15 high. I can tell you which I think is more out there, and it’s Shelby.
That’s because you’re not very talented. Do you really think Monson has so much more talent than Shelby that a clean Monson can run faster than a doped Shelby?? Either Monson is doping now, or Shelby was clean back then.
Let's look at the best white runners ever:
1) Monson 14:19, coached by NOP Ritz
2) Shobukhova 14:23, banned doper
3) Houlihan 14:23, banned doper
4) Schweizer 14:26, burrito babe
5) Klosterhalfen 14:26, coached by banned doper Salazar
If you really think the one at the very top neither is the best talent nor a doper, I don't know what to tell you.
I don’t believe Monson is doping for the same reason I don’t believe Shelby was doping when she ran her best times: they are both all-American nice girls from the wholesome Midwest.
If Monson is clean, then Shelby was clean. If Shelby was doping, then Monson must be doping to be able to run faster.
Here’s another reason to believe Monson (and by extension, Shelby) is clean: Monson just ran the race of her life, gave it everything she had, and smashed Shelby’s American record, yet she still got left in the dust by four runners. That wouldn’t be possible if Monson is doping. If she was doping, she would have been closer to the other runners who themselves are almost guaranteed to be doping.
The massive number of drug busts in Kenya the past couple of years prove that the only reason East African runners have been so dominant is they are doping. Genetic superiority is a myth. I believe the gap between Monson today and the runners ahead of her is a doping gap. Even with Monson chopping 4 seconds off the American record, it’s 14 seconds slower than the world record. 14 seconds! That’s a huge gap that can only be logically explained by doing. Therefore Monson is clean and so was Shelby.
I actually agree that Shelby is probably more talented than Monson, but there are plenty of reasons why Monson could've run faster that have nothing to do with doping:
-Monson had superspikes, Shelby didn't
-Monson essentially had the best possible pacemakers today, chasing a group of four women running right at 14:20 pace. Shelby had Schweizer for company in her 14:23 race but she still had to do a lot of the work herself.
-If Shelby didn't get banned, she likely would've lowered the record further in the past two years.
Neither you nor I have any idea if Monson is clean, and either way it isn't evidence for or against Shelby.
You think maybe people could still gain benefits from taking hormones/ banned substances at a “legal limit”? I mean, they wouldn’t get caught!!
“No, but they seem like a cool down to earth person, they’re 100% clean, they would never betray this bs idea of cool-acting athletes being clean put out by fans”.
It’s not just Monson. It’s not just houlihan who messed up on one occasion (those who actually know what happened, know), it’s a lot of top people.
Don’t hate the player, hate the game. Money, contracts are on the line. These are competitors. May not be actually crossing the line to be considered doping, but you know…
if you “actually know what happened” then why don’t you go ahead and enlighten us?
Instead of taking her specific supplement, she took someone else’s, who is larger than her, thus triggering a positive test since it went above the legal threshold. Who that person is, you can figure out yourself…
I believe that Shelby didn’t start doping until after the 2019 world championships when she ran the race of her life and still got crushed. Today’s run by Monson validates my belief. If Monson can run 14:19 while clean, that makes it more likely that Shelby was clean when she ran 14:23.
When you really want to believe something, logic goes out the window.
I don’t believe Monson is doping for the same reason I don’t believe Shelby was doping when she ran her best times: they are both all-American nice girls from the wholesome Midwest.