Cole Hocker London DL predictions

Prescient

He ran 3 meters further than Nuguse and about 2 more than Gourley. He also had to dodge Mills. Gourley/Nuguse are in a different class of fitness right now, and I think Gourley with a bit more assertiveness beats Nordas. This race was his best of the year and shows he’s narrowed the gap from Oslo to the 3:29 group.

I watched this , and was waiting for the excuses, not from you Thoughsleader, but many more, he did not get out fast enough to be a factor, never was and lost 3 places in last 180 or so. There was plenty of room for anyone to jump in right in back of McSweyn,,, no one really did, Hocker was 13th? What do people want to give him today? 5th? Come on now..This race had 12 guys run under 3:32..not everyone got the trip they wanted.

There’s no excuse for running a mostly tactically crap race. The part that wasn’t his or Tim’s fault was Mills tripping himself up on Giles. The rest was slow starts and not finding a spot. But it’s context not excuses for both guys that they ran really bad tactically which can be cleaned up. Rather that than exhibiting potentially falling fitness with perfect tactics (Habz, Garcia). I suspect those guys might be training through to be fair.

Let’s be real. Hocker ran 1514.5m in 3:32.14, which is 3:30.11 1500 pace. So really he won the race by about 3 yards. Add in the fact he had to come to a stop to avoid toppling over the drunken George Mills and you’re looking at a Jakob-esque performance. They will arrive in Budapest as co-favorites for gold.

Well, I was a second off for the time, but right about the subsequent posts. 3:32 for 13th isn't great, especially as it was a decent paced race (I don't give a damn about all that extra distance run crap. The race is gun to tape, nothing else matters). Based on his results this year, I'd say he's around 3:33 shape with 3:31-high as his best day. He's still young and has lots of time to improve - just look at Neil Gourley who is running better than ever in his late-20s.

This was a great result for Hocker, all things considered. SB in his first Diamon League of the season. He is at his best all season, on an other continent and in a contest with a lot of pressure.

Are you to be taken seriously? Jakob-esque, clearly you jest.. You should know this, but I will help you, in this sport you do not get 2 seconds of credit for anything , let alone the race he ran, he was never in it..Hocker is a co-favorite for what? I expect more from you..that take is an absurdity many different ways. First is creating a poor position from jump street, there was a ton of gap off the top fractions. many could have run their way into that gap, he is one of them, giving him a big PR , NEVER run? All credibility gone, sorry. He went from 10th to 13th..and you want credit for a PR, and I thought I had heard everything..lol

he was fine and hopefully he learned something. under ideal circumstances, he could have been top 5 or 6, that is all. He has had races where he does a better job of staying on the rail.

You can run in lane two in a 3:37 race and come out fine, it just doesn't work when you get so close to your current top speed for the distance.

If I had to bet on it, I'd say he will break 3:30 someday. He just needs to get in a year of good training progression without injury

He needs more intl experience under his belt. Can’t be disappointed with a 3:32 in a loaded race.

Hocker seems to think he's still in. Illegal, or racing Americans.

He lost the race in the first 100ms. So much for that speed.

McSweyn is recovering, and he knows how to race. Hocker will never win from 13th.

Someone didn't get the joke.

I hope for your sake, it's me, but I worry that it's you.

PS You might want to reboot your sarcasomometer. It only takes reading a few posts on LRC to throw those things off.

Ha, I think this is fair. Let’s call if like it is.
2 parts to the 1500: Tactics and Fitness. Cole gets a D- for Tactics and a B for Fitness. C- result.
I’m still betting on him the next race over Tanner as far as advancing at Worlds.

He and Cooper still haven’t beaten any of Centro’s PRs two years after that 3:50 indoor mile. That’s with super shoes and more fast races than Centro had.

Not to mention Centro got bronze at worlds when he was younger than Hocker is now. He also had a world silver, bronze, and Olympic 4th place finish when he was Cooper’s age.

These are all just facts. The New Gen guys like to hype up their boys, who are no doubt tremendously talented, but they’re closer to being Eric Holt, Drew Hunter, and Sam Prakel than they are to being as good as Centro was.

What do I win

Obviously me..I did not get or see the humor in it, sounded quite calculated to me.. I am old and easily tweaked..oh well.

No Hocker is closer to being Leo Manzano (of course doesn’t have the one medal) let’s say. He’s 2/2 on making teams when healthy and can hit the standards. The 3 guys you mentioned can’t make an outdoor team via top 3 or hit a standard.
Teare is more in the Ryan Hill/Ben True range for now.

Leo at his best, had one ability most U.S. guys did not have for a period he could control a race from the front..or kick in wit great lift.

Hocker did do that in college like Leo (see: indoor mile). US might be too strong to attempt it now unless you are Nuguse. Let’s remember Hocker hasn’t hit full fitness/sharpness since ‘21. Maybe he gets there by Hungary