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  • John Wesley Harding

    Member since 06/19/2014.

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    1 year ago 06/28/2023 11:13am EDT
    re: Sally Vix

    Sally Vix wrote:

    Jelimo feels like almost yesterday. Can't believe she was 15 years ago. Boy does time fly!

    Pamela Jelimo should have two Olympic golds. She crossed the line 4th in London but the winner, Russia’s Mariya Savinova, was DQ’d and Jelimo upgraded to bronze. In 2015 WADA recommended that the now-silver medalist, Russia’s Ekaterina Poistogova, have her results annulled backdating to London, but CAS refused to backdate that far. The gold medalist/second finisher from the race is DSD athlete Caster Semenya.

    The women’s 800 has always been a little messy. It actually seems to be in a good place now.

  • Spot the American

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    1 year ago 06/28/2023 12:10pm EDT
    re: John Wesley Harding

    John Wesley Harding wrote:

    Sally Vix wrote:

    Jelimo feels like almost yesterday. Can't believe she was 15 years ago. Boy does time fly!

    Pamela Jelimo should have two Olympic golds. She crossed the line 4th in London but the winner, Russia’s Mariya Savinova, was DQ’d and Jelimo upgraded to bronze. In 2015 WADA recommended that the now-silver medalist, Russia’s Ekaterina Poistogova, have her results annulled backdating to London, but CAS refused to backdate that far. The gold medalist/second finisher from the race is DSD athlete Caster Semenya.

    The women’s 800 has always been a little messy. It actually seems to be in a good place now.

    Disagree. What you probably mean is a good place now you have an American leading the current lists. But Coe said London was the cleanest games ever, didn't he? Who says the current bunch are any better? Maybe in a few years they'll have a test for whatever Mu and keely were on in Tokyo.

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    Sally Vix

    Member since 02/01/2019.

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    1 year ago 06/28/2023 12:12pm EDT
    re: Spot the American

    Spot the American wrote:

    John Wesley Harding wrote:

    Pamela Jelimo should have two Olympic golds. She crossed the line 4th in London but the winner, Russia’s Mariya Savinova, was DQ’d and Jelimo upgraded to bronze. In 2015 WADA recommended that the now-silver medalist, Russia’s Ekaterina Poistogova, have her results annulled backdating to London, but CAS refused to backdate that far. The gold medalist/second finisher from the race is DSD athlete Caster Semenya.

    The women’s 800 has always been a little messy. It actually seems to be in a good place now.

    Disagree. What you probably mean is a good place now you have an American leading the current lists. But Coe said London was the cleanest games ever, didn't he? Who says the current bunch are any better? Maybe in a few years they'll have a test for whatever Mu and keely were on in Tokyo.

    So everyone is dirty? Pretty depressing. Just a bunch of cheats competing in our beloved sport.

  • John Wesley Harding

    Member since 06/19/2014.

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    1 year ago 06/28/2023 12:29pm EDT
    re: Spot the American

    Spot the American wrote:

    Disagree. What you probably mean is a good place now you have an American leading the current lists. But Coe said London was the cleanest games ever, didn't he? Who says the current bunch are any better? Maybe in a few years they'll have a test for whatever Mu and keely were on in Tokyo.

    Doesn’t matter to me if it’s an American. You can’t pretend that Mu and Keely are anything like the Russian or Turkish women who would come out of obscurity to dominate at the Olympics (and get popped for it). By messy I also meant the DSD situation, like in 2016 when Semenya, Niyonsaba and Wambui swept the medals. Or the fact that Jarmila still has the WR.

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    the truth..

    Member since 05/10/2023.

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    1 year ago 06/28/2023 1:13pm EDT
    re: John Wesley Harding

    I read something here (I think Rojo wrote it, but I'm not sure - I can't find the link) that every woman under 1:55 is either from the Soviet state-sanctioned doping era or DSD. Nowadays it's fairer.

  • John Wesley Harding

    Member since 06/19/2014.

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    1 year ago 06/28/2023 1:23pm EDT
    re: the truth..

    the truth.. wrote:

    I read something here (I think Rojo wrote it, but I'm not sure - I can't find the link) that every woman under 1:55 is either from the Soviet state-sanctioned doping era or DSD. Nowadays it's fairer.

    There’s no evidence that Jelimo was DSD. She has a daughter FWIW.

    …Nor is there any indication that Ana Fidelia Quirot was DSD either.

    Bogus “fact,” though that doesn’t mean rojo didn’t write it

    This post was edited 2 minutes after it was posted.

  • zxcvxzcv

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    1 year ago 06/28/2023 1:25pm EDT
    re: VoR

    VoR wrote:

    slippery slope wrote:

    Bad form to allow this in a BMC meet. Not like this is an official time - or why aren't there male pacers in ALL the DL meets (that could go all the way as well)? If she had set a British record would it have counted?

    It's always been very common for BMC meets to have mixed races. Makes it easier for everyone - and particularly the best women - to find a competitive race to take part in.

    Of course times achieved by women in mixed races won't count as records or towards qualifying for championships. And everybody knows this.

    Sure, just as "everybody" knows that Kipchoge's sub-2 marathon doesn't count.

  • Ruxton Towers XC

    Member since 11/19/2022.

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    1 year ago 06/28/2023 1:46pm EDT
    re: guess what it is...

    guess what it is... wrote:

    Muir > Mu

    Personally I don't disagree but as per usual, this is a post that doesn't define the terms... better at what?

    • Better at entertaining track fans? Yes, Muir is.
    • Better at entering a wide variety of races? Yes, Muir is better.
    • Better at showing up year after year and giving 110%? Yes, Muir is better.
    • Better at winning the Olympics and World Championships? No, Mu is better.
    • Better at running an ultra-fast 800? Nope, Mu is better.
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