I think Vanderbilt is the obvious answer assuming you can get in on your own. Good school, horrible distance team.
Miami is a decent option as well
Vanderbilt isn't taking him. Aside from the difficulty of transferring in academically, recruiting there has taken a step up in recent years and their incoming recruiting class includes a 9:07 3200m guy and a 8:41 3K guy
For reference, what were your high school times? Coaches might want to see some track times as well. Also, did you finish high up at your state meet/big invitationals?
It's a little late to go through the transfer recruiting process now - would it be possible to run cross country at your home school, get your times down, then start talking to coaches in the fall?
Don't listen to anybody telling you your requirements are arbitrary or you're irrelevant. There are a ton of diviDivisionsion 1 schools that would take you with a high 26 8k time and some decent track times from high school.
Look at schools in conferences like the MAAC, ASUN, America East, Atlantic 10, Big South, CAA, Horizon League, MEAC, MVC, NEC, OVC, SWAC, Southern, Southland, Sun Belt, Summit League, and WAC, among others.
Many of these posters most likely never went D1 themselves or have been out of the game for such a long time that what they know isn't accurate anymore. Take the time to look, research, and make a case to coaches that you can be developed and they may take the chance on you as a walkon.
Are you a D1 coach? Don't put other posters down because there are always many who have a lot of experience. I am a coach and I have about 10 guys running D1 currently.
I run Division 1 at a nationally competitive school right now. I went through the recruiting process recently and have seen schools take on guys far slower than the original poster. Plus, I hear from my coaches and other coaches in my conference about recruiting criteria and the like.
You are 19 and went through the process as a nonscholarship runner but you are quick to dismiss the feedback of many of us who ran D1 and have coached for 20 years and been through the process dozens of times? Please name 10 schools and I will look at their athletes' HS PRs.
I run Division 1 at a nationally competitive school right now. I went through the recruiting process recently and have seen schools take on guys far slower than the original poster. Plus, I hear from my coaches and other coaches in my conference about recruiting criteria and the like.
The problem here, and with every single one of these recruitment threads, is the ambiguity.
Let's take your post. What does "take on" mean? Does that mean they travel with the team? Do they get money? What is the experience like? Are they competitive at all, or are they a laughing stock even within their conference?
I'm not OP, but I can infer that based on his post, he's looking for any D1 school, just for the sake of saying that he runs D1. Of course, to your point, there are many, many D1 schools that would lose 15-50 to D3 schools so I personally don't really understand why that's so important, but again, I'm not OP.
Is losing 15-50 to a D3 school worth saying "Hey, I run D1!". Maybe to some. It certainly wouldn't be to me. The larger, most holistic point is this: OP, you're not very fast. Choosing a school based on where you can run is pretty dumb.
I think Vanderbilt is the obvious answer assuming you can get in on your own. Good school, horrible distance team.
Miami is a decent option as well
Vanderbilt isn't taking him. Aside from the difficulty of transferring in academically, recruiting there has taken a step up in recent years and their incoming recruiting class includes a 9:07 3200m guy and a 8:41 3K guy
I would prefer XC and track. I want to go D1 because I want to be at a bigger school that isn’t completely irrelevant.
I don't understand this. Completely irrelevant to what? When I think of "schools" -- or, more precisely in this discussion -- undergraduate institutions that are "relevant" to something significant, I think of their academic programs. I don't think of schools of rock, or schools of football, or schools of drunken frat boys. Almost every undergraduate institution of academic stature and "relevance" is in NCAA Division III or the quasi-DI world of the Ivy League and perhaps a few other little places. Are you just looking for a school to cheer for from the bleachers, or that is "relevant" to television and other mass-media broadcasts of college sports competition?
It's called TFRRS - if you're a collegiate runner at any level, you should already be familiar with it. Don't be lazy - do some research. Here's the reality, yes, you might be able to be at the back of the pack at a mediocre or decent school, but most coaches are not looking to add more back pack runners. They're looking to move them out if they aren't developing. If the school is bad enough that you would be on the team, traveling, contributing, then your experience might not be all that great. Maybe the coach is just mailing it in, guys aren't serious, and you probably won't accomplish much.
I would prefer XC and track. I want to go D1 because I want to be at a bigger school that isn’t completely irrelevant.
But YOU are irrelevant and will be more irrelevant in Division 1 and such a team is absolutely irrelevant in xc and distance. What you're saying is you want people to recognize the name of the school, mistakenly think you're good or important because you're associated with it and gain some extrinsic satisfaction from that while, in reality, you are an uncompetitive runner on an uncompetitive team.
Vanderbilt isn't taking him. Aside from the difficulty of transferring in academically, recruiting there has taken a step up in recent years and their incoming recruiting class includes a 9:07 3200m guy and a 8:41 3K guy