Any parent or doctor who sterilizes a child before they are a consenting adult should go to prison for life - Elon Musk

Great running topic

That's a personal anecdote. I'm sure you have similar experiences with house pets.

There's considerable overlap between those supporting the trans-mutilation of children and those who advocate for men in women's sports.

Dylan Mulvaney is a he and one person, not multiple people. Please stop with this "their" rot.

My daughter cut herself in her teens. She is fine now and barely has any noticeable scars. Sounds like I should have encouraged it because it was far less life altering than have breasts removed and taking hormone blockers. What is extreme enough that you wouldn't support it? Can someone remove a thumb? A hand?

My daughter cut herself in her teens. She is fine now and barely has any noticeable scars. Sounds like I should have encouraged it because it was far less life altering than have breasts removed and taking hormone blockers. What is extreme enough that you wouldn't support it? Can someone remove a thumb? A hand?

Which is likelier: what Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote above or that people are aghast that, due to gender dysphoria, a mentally ill woman wants to cut off her breasts and cut out her uterus, that a mentally ill man wants to cut off his penis and testicles, and both want to poison themselves with anti-natural hormones? I say it is the latter.

Having gender incongruence is not a mental disorder itself.

It is a Sisyphean task to try to educate these folks. Kudos for trying though.

The article that Musk was commenting on wasn’t even about transgender stuff, really.

It was an article of how DeSantis is being intentionally divisive on almost every move he makes.

There is no effort to work the middle or bring people together.
If you tend to side with the Democrats, he doesn’t want your vote.

The Musk tweet was random and not on topic.

You have to be joking.

DeSantis has done nothing ‘divisive’ at all. The Parental Rights in Education Act had over 50% approval from both Democrats and people of color

Trans surgeries are appropriate for kids born with DSDs. That being said, surgeries for those under 18 who are not born with a DSD are not appropriate as they really don’t have a full understanding of their sexuality and cannot grasp the lifelong repercussions of such a surgery. I can’t imagine deciding at 13 to never have an orgasm for the remaining 70 years of my life.

wtf is wrong with you

This. I hope they ban the OP. It's not that hard to categorize your trash thread.

Having gender incongruence to the point where you want to surgically remove parts of your body, and possibly replace them with non-functioning parts associated with the opposite sex, should be considered a mental disorder.

One more example of how utterly sick and evil the Demonrats are. Poor kids.

From Wikipedia: "The diagnostic label gender identity disorder (GID) was used until 2013 with the release of the diagnostic manual DSM-5. The condition was renamed to remove the stigma associated with the term disorder" [boldface mine].

Regardless of whether gender dysphoria is a disorder or a distress, most opponents of "trans-affirming" surgeries and hormonal attacks on the gender dysphoric are simply aghast at this so-called "treatment" rather than, as Just Another Hobby Jogger has written, uncomfortable because they (the opponents) "are secretly bisexual and it hurts their [the opponents's] sexual identity."

Of course you jumped in. Groomers can't help but post in these threads