Great runner. We know that based on his incredible 500m and 600m times. He's great in the 800m and at a young age. He has alot of potential that will emerge with experience.
Brandon Miller split 44 high for TAMU last year made the WC team.
Emmnual Kemboi split 43r and ran 44 open and was world champ.
Jonathan Jones from Texas split 43.4 last year and ran 1:45.
Speaking or Mark Everett, Jose Parilla his 800m Olympic teammate was a sub 45 relay man.
These are just off for top of my head. But, Will is super slender kid. Built like a miler. You want to see him grow into the the distance. And that’s a lot to be said considering he ran 1:46 in HS.
Exactly you list a bunch of fast dudes who in general haven't come close to breaking 1:44. It is one thing to run a good 1:45.8. it is another to run a 143.7.
Well except Korir. He is a stud. Now miller is young so I expect endurance to improve. Not as sold on the much older Jones. He could end up in that not fast enough for a world class 400m guy and not strong enough for the 800m
Jose Parilla broke 1:44 and made the Olympics doing it. Miller is still only 19. Was the 2nd fastest 18 year old we’ve ever had behind Brazier.
Random fact: Cade Flatt is older than Brandon Miller.
Brandon Miller split 44 high for TAMU last year made the WC team.
Emmnual Kemboi split 43r and ran 44 open and was world champ.
Jonathan Jones from Texas split 43.4 last year and ran 1:45.
Speaking or Mark Everett, Jose Parilla his 800m Olympic teammate was a sub 45 relay man.
These are just off for top of my head. But, Will is super slender kid. Built like a miler. You want to see him grow into the the distance. And that’s a lot to be said considering he ran 1:46 in HS.
Devon Dixon split 43.9 for TAMU, Emmanuel Korir split multiple 43's for Utep. 44's nice but not unheard of.
My question is: does the Georgia coach have any experience actually building an 800 runner? It doesn't look like it - he's regressed in the 800 considerably while doing very well at the 400-600. Sumner's choice of going to Georgia really puzzled me (why not A&M, UTEP, Texas, Penn St), maybe he's trying to focus more on the 400.
You might want to read up on Henner’s experience in the middle distances, he is more than qualified to ‘build” an 800m runner, as recently as the last few years he has had an ncaa champ - and lots of success in previous stops.
That was hard to believe that Brandon Miller is younger than Cade Flatt, but he is. Miller was born June 27, 2003, according to World Athletics, and thus, broke 1:45 at 17, just prior to his 18th birthday, 1.5 s faster than the high school record, after his freshman year at Texas A and M (Sumner and Flatt both turned 19 last year, I think).
2021 1:44.97 Hayward Field, Eugene, OR (USA) 11 JUN 2021 2022 1:45.09 Hayward Field, Eugene, OR (USA) 10 JUN 2022
Brandon Miller split 44 high for TAMU last year made the WC team.
Emmnual Kemboi split 43r and ran 44 open and was world champ.
Jonathan Jones from Texas split 43.4 last year and ran 1:45.
Speaking or Mark Everett, Jose Parilla his 800m Olympic teammate was a sub 45 relay man.
These are just off for top of my head. But, Will is super slender kid. Built like a miler. You want to see him grow into the the distance. And that’s a lot to be said considering he ran 1:46 in HS.
Devon Dixon split 43.9 for TAMU, Emmanuel Korir split multiple 43's for Utep. 44's nice but not unheard of.
My question is: does the Georgia coach have any experience actually building an 800 runner? It doesn't look like it - he's regressed in the 800 considerably while doing very well at the 400-600. Sumner's choice of going to Georgia really puzzled me (why not A&M, UTEP, Texas, Penn St), maybe he's trying to focus more on the 400.
Both Sumner and Flatt's college choices were weird. They're both 400/800 guys, yet Flatt chose the more distance-oriented Ole Miss and Sumner chose a sprint school. Doesn't look like either choice is working out great for them.
That was hard to believe that Brandon Miller is younger than Cade Flatt, but he is. Miller was born June 27, 2003, according to World Athletics, and thus, broke 1:45 at 17, just prior to his 18th birthday, 1.5 s faster than the high school record, after his freshman year at Texas A and M (Sumner and Flatt both turned 19 last year, I think).
2021 1:44.97 Hayward Field, Eugene, OR (USA) 11 JUN 2021 2022 1:45.09 Hayward Field, Eugene, OR (USA) 10 JUN 2022
Upon further investigation, I think Brandon’s IAAF profile is 1 year off. He’s mostly born 6/27/02 and not 03.
All of his AAU age group records line up to him being 20 now, turning 21. Proper age for college junior and not a year young as the IAAF age would suggest.
Both Sumner and Flatt's college choices were weird. They're both 400/800 guys, yet Flatt chose the more distance-oriented Ole Miss and Sumner chose a sprint school. Doesn't look like either choice is working out great for them.
Sumner is a sprinter though. He ran 10 mpw in HS. Seems like a decent enough pick, he’s boosted his mileage it’s not like he’s going to start running 40 mpw. The Flatt one I agree seems a tad weird and then the coach left to boot. Texas A&M and Texas would be more conventional picks no doubt.
Devon Dixon split 43.9 for TAMU, Emmanuel Korir split multiple 43's for Utep. 44's nice but not unheard of.
My question is: does the Georgia coach have any experience actually building an 800 runner? It doesn't look like it - he's regressed in the 800 considerably while doing very well at the 400-600. Sumner's choice of going to Georgia really puzzled me (why not A&M, UTEP, Texas, Penn St), maybe he's trying to focus more on the 400.
Both Sumner and Flatt's college choices were weird. They're both 400/800 guys, yet Flatt chose the more distance-oriented Ole Miss and Sumner chose a sprint school. Doesn't look like either choice is working out great for them.
Sumner ran an indoor PR by 1.5s and was an SEC champ. How is his decision looking bad based off 1 race?
Both Sumner and Flatt's college choices were weird. They're both 400/800 guys, yet Flatt chose the more distance-oriented Ole Miss and Sumner chose a sprint school. Doesn't look like either choice is working out great for them.
Sumner ran an indoor PR by 1.5s and was an SEC champ. How is his decision looking bad based off 1 race?
When he ran a 1:15 in January, I was expecting him to run 1:45 this indoors, sub 1:47 at least. He was the slowest to qualify and sh!t the bed in the finals at nationals. It still a good year for him, but he should have been able to absolutely clean up in the weak field this year. Hopefully it's all going according to plan.
Sumner ran an indoor PR by 1.5s and was an SEC champ. How is his decision looking bad based off 1 race?
When he ran a 1:15 in January, I was expecting him to run 1:45 this indoors, sub 1:47 at least. He was the slowest to qualify and sh!t the bed in the finals at nationals. It still a good year for him, but he should have been able to absolutely clean up in the weak field this year. Hopefully it's all going according to plan.
Weak field? This was easily the strongest field in the history of the NCAA meet. Most years, only 3-4 people break 1:47. This year, I think 16 did.
The #1 & maybe #2 time were slower, but 3-16 were much faster.
Sumner ran an indoor PR by 1.5s and was an SEC champ. How is his decision looking bad based off 1 race?
When he ran a 1:15 in January, I was expecting him to run 1:45 this indoors, sub 1:47 at least. He was the slowest to qualify and sh!t the bed in the finals at nationals. It still a good year for him, but he should have been able to absolutely clean up in the weak field this year. Hopefully it's all going according to plan.
He had a great first season of collegiate running and made AA. His coach was quoted saying that they are training him to race and that the times will come down without focusing on them. By that measure he's done great. He's racing and learning and winning most that he's entered. His 25.x closing in the Nat prelims from last place to first was a second faster than all other 800 competitors all weekend. His final didn't work out for him and he probably cooled his jets saving for the 4x4. Significantly, his 44.76 split was 4 seconds faster than Cade Flatt's 48.86 (DMR) ....In fact, if Sumner was on Ole Miss DMR team, they would've beaten OSU.
Any idea why Godwin didn't run the 4x4? They could've easily won it if he ran.
Sumners tactics are pretty rough. Last year he liked to hang back to leave some energy to kick the last 200m. This year he let himself get boxed in and had to drop back to last place in the prelims and it looked like it would play similarly in the final but the pace was too hot for that. Good for him to run a fast split.
Great runner. We know that based on his incredible 500m and 600m times. He's great in the 800m and at a young age. He has alot of potential that will emerge with experience.
It will emerge with a coach who knows what he's doing
Both are great young runners. I don't see one being able to run away from the other by much. I wouldn't put any limits on how fast they will go this summer. Both are very good (and their coaches too)
That was hard to believe that Brandon Miller is younger than Cade Flatt, but he is. Miller was born June 27, 2003, according to World Athletics, and thus, broke 1:45 at 17, just prior to his 18th birthday, 1.5 s faster than the high school record, after his freshman year at Texas A and M (Sumner and Flatt both turned 19 last year, I think).
2021 1:44.97 Hayward Field, Eugene, OR (USA) 11 JUN 2021 2022 1:45.09 Hayward Field, Eugene, OR (USA) 10 JUN 2022
Upon further investigation, I think Brandon’s IAAF profile is 1 year off. He’s mostly born 6/27/02 and not 03.
All of his AAU age group records line up to him being 20 now, turning 21. Proper age for college junior and not a year young as the IAAF age would suggest.
Miller has the same name as some young sprinter in NCAA right now. Random coincidence, but same as Grant Fisher/Fischer.
If you consider how well he ran his 4x400m leg, then it's pretty obvious that he just dogged the 800m when it got away from him. He wouldn't have won, not even close, but last place in 1:51.46 isn't indicative of his ability; do you think it is? It's not worth exhausting yourself for a 5th+ place finish when the 4x400m is coming up in less than an hour.