Yeah, so many low effort threads today. He was 5th in Tokyo, 4th and 6th in Eugene. There’s a lot of depth at the top, and the margins between winning a medal and going home devastated are small.
Everybody has bad races and Fisher had one today. Luckily they don’t give out medals in August for how you run in February.
I feel like it wasn't as bad of a race as many say here.
He went for the WR, struggled and finished 5. with an indoor PR. He's definitely in sub 13 shape right now. Not a bad place to be at all.
I like his attitude. When he peaks right and runs a bit more according to his strengths (still think he should have gone hard at the worlds 10k with 2-4 laps to go) he will medal on the world stage sooner or later.
I think it's great that he's putting himself with the best of the best. He's proven he can run fast and be in the mix at the top. The main thing to work on is how to handle himself to run his best race in these world class race environments. So he put himself out there, probably could have run a bit faster with a different strategy (like not going with the leaders so the fade wouldn't be so bad), but learned from it. Ran an indoor PB with a solid time. What's there to complain about?
I think it's great that he's putting himself with the best of the best. He's proven he can run fast and be in the mix at the top. The main thing to work on is how to handle himself to run his best race in these world class race environments. So he put himself out there, probably could have run a bit faster with a different strategy (like not going with the leaders so the fade wouldn't be so bad), but learned from it. Ran an indoor PB with a solid time. What's there to complain about?
Just a quibble: His strategy was totally fine IMO. He stayed away from surging and wasn't in no-man's land, either. The fitness/legs were just not there on the day to run a sub-7:30. He went out in 3:58 high, which is within his wheelhouse. I guess you could argue he could've ran more like Krop, who was about a second back for much of the first 2K, but I'm not sure it would've made much of a difference — does he run 7:32 or 7:33 just because he hits more like 4-flat? I kinda doubt it.
I feel like it wasn't as bad of a race as many say here.
He went for the WR, struggled and finished 5. with an indoor PR. He's definitely in sub 13 shape right now. Not a bad place to be at all.
I like his attitude. When he peaks right and runs a bit more according to his strengths (still think he should have gone hard at the worlds 10k with 2-4 laps to go) he will medal on the world stage sooner or later.
Unless he’s the best runner in the field, going hard with 2-4 laps to go will put him out of the medals.
Nothing wrong abut that. He just was not ready for the big time.
I think you are trolling but Grant was certainly a big fish last season with AR´s and top places in the Worlds and in DL.
If he hadn´t had his rail accident in the 5000m final in Eugene he would probably had got the bronze.
He wasn´t on top of his game yesterday early in the season and after Jetlag? But there is plenty of time to regain the level he had last year.
Grant Fisher has done some very great things over the last few years. You guys have ripped Drew Hunter for the last 5 years non-step. ... not even sure why. Grant will do just fine. I predict he and Nguse will be the best American middle distance guys over the next few years -
According to the Toyko olympics results page, he is the 5th largest fish in a pond with millions of people who race 10k's. Pretty big fish tbh
Let us assume a finite U.S.A. T&F budget, high schools/colleges/pros.
What have we given up in javelin throw, 400m, 400mH & 800m development to get Grant Fisher to 5th place?
We need readers & posters on here to think about T&F as if are all unbiased. USA has traded proper 400m to 800m development to bang our heads on a brick wall chasing 5000m & 10000m medals, medals earned too infrequently. Our R.O.I. for 3000mSC to Marathon in U.S. is awful.
Lievin just shows that he needs some more speed. He has been in the mix very well for 5k/10k races at the world level, but not able to kick as strong at the end. And then in this 3k (which requires more speed than the 5k/10k) he didn't have the wheels to hang with the top couple guys. Also, I think this wasn't really a great race for him. Last year when he set the 5k indoor record he closed in roughly 7:38/7:39 for his last 3k. So he was barely faster than what he did a portion of a race last year. It appears he isn't super sharp right now.
No way. No medals yet. Sports are about winning at the end of the day. I'd take Centros career over Grants any day of the week. There is always going to be an innovation that makes the previous generations times seem slower as well. People remember who medals more than who time trials a fast race.
4th is objectively way closer to a medal than almsot anyone in history. If the thesis is he can't handle himself against the greats, he's very clearly in with all of them as demonstrated by how he combined for first in his sum total of 5k/10k finishes, and beat many of the people who beat him in the 10K and 5K in other meets.
No way. No medals yet. Sports are about winning at the end of the day. I'd take Centros career over Grants any day of the week. There is always going to be an innovation that makes the previous generations times seem slower as well. People remember who medals more than who time trials a fast race.
4th is objectively way closer to a medal than almsot anyone in history. If the thesis is he can't handle himself against the greats, he's very clearly in with all of them as demonstrated by how he combined for first in his sum total of 5k/10k finishes, and beat many of the people who beat him in the 10K and 5K in other meets.
Only recently has he made the next step to be dominant on the national scene. No idea why yesterday's meet was so overhyped by the BloJos. He was not going to win much less set a WR. Grant took the chance to race at a major european indoor meet when he could have traveled to NYC. He was not conservative to start and faded. He will be ok. I want to think that his trip coming off the bend in the 5,000m WC final last summer was not a small window missed for him to medal. I think he will be amongst the elite for the next 2-3 years but with BTC it is hard to tell because so much work goes into trying to get a window of results.