The Dibaba accusation is fine and well-deserved. Let's leave Marc Scott (he left Bowerman shortly after a single one of their athletes got popped -- I think Shelby is likely guilty but the substance is more in the Chris Froome category than Lance Armstrong) and Salpeter (who started her career extremely late, explaining rapid improvement) out of it, maybe?
I think once you associate with someone like Jama Aden, or your coach gets popped for legitimate doping (e.g. not Salazar putting testosterone cream on his kids, which is f'ed up but something other than EPO-esque drugs) you deserve the skepticism. For the good of enjoying the sport, can we leave the people that haven't had credible allegations made out of it?
For me the only thing that constitutes a "credible allegation" is a positive test.
Apart from that, it's all just speculation....
So you're going to tell me that you don't think Makhloufi was doping when Gressier found EPO syringes in his bag - just because he didn't test positive?
I'm also guessing the EPO found on Jama Aden during the police raid was just for himself too right? nothing to do with his athletes who were there?
So you're going to tell me that you don't think Makhloufi was doping when Gressier found EPO syringes in his bag - just because he didn't test positive?
I'm also guessing the EPO found on Jama Aden during the police raid was just for himself too right? nothing to do with his athletes who were there?
Wake up.
Jama Aden and Makhloufi deserve all the scrutiny. In Aden's case, just look at David Torrance's (RIP) whistle-blowing and of course the Spanish drug bust that occurred as a result. In Makhloufi's case you have his time as an athlete with Aden and then the Gressier syringes story.
That being said, I get someone saying that casting suspicions on Marc Scott or a random athlete in Kaptagat as pretty random. Fits more in the "anyone could be doping" category than "this athlete almost certainly doping" category.
So you're going to tell me that you don't think Makhloufi was doping when Gressier found EPO syringes in his bag - just because he didn't test positive?
I'm also guessing the EPO found on Jama Aden during the police raid was just for himself too right? nothing to do with his athletes who were there?
Wake up.
Jama Aden and Makhloufi deserve all the scrutiny. In Aden's case, just look at David Torrance's (RIP) whistle-blowing and of course the Spanish drug bust that occurred as a result. In Makhloufi's case you have his time as an athlete with Aden and then the Gressier syringes story.
That being said, I get someone saying that casting suspicions on Marc Scott or a random athlete in Kaptagat as pretty random. Fits more in the "anyone could be doping" category than "this athlete almost certainly doping" category.
Not this at all. With a doped teammate, that is still reported by the team including the coaches, Scott fits imo more in the "this athlete is likely doping" rather than into the "anyone could be doping" or the "this athlete is almost certainly doping" category.