Why is it so bad to call a woman hot or share the link to her own Instagram photo of her in a bikini? Clearly she doesn’t mind the attention if she’s posting a photo like that.
Talk to old women who are constantly ignored, and I bet many of them now long for the days when guys gave them attention.
That is all fine but this isn't a thread about Steiner's looks. It's a thread about her running the 400 this past weekend.
On this forum, the looks of women are always brought up when discussing them. That is what objectification of them is. They are women and they are athletes.
She didn't run an indoor 400 last season (never has), but she ran 35.80 for 300 which is equivalent to 51-mid. Pretty awesome opener after her endless season last year. What a hoss!
That conversion seems off. I would think it would be more like a 50 mid to low equivalent. some examples, Talitha Diggs ran 36.37 last year and ran 50.98 indoors. Sydney Mclaughlin ran 36.12 indoors and ran 50.36 indoors.
She didn't run an indoor 400 last season (never has), but she ran 35.80 for 300 which is equivalent to 51-mid. Pretty awesome opener after her endless season last year. What a hoss!
Too much is being read into her 400. More than likely Hall had her doing it to help with her strength in preparation for her Millrose 300. I wouldn't be surprised if she has some 400s in training that are close to what she ran last weekend.
Steiner will eventually be very good at the 400 but it will be in a few years. If she runs any outdoor 400s this season they'll be somewhat limited
That is all fine but this isn't a thread about Steiner's looks. It's a thread about her running the 400 this past weekend.
On this forum, the looks of women are always brought up when discussing them. That is what objectification of them is. They are women and they are athletes.
Why is it so bad to call a woman hot or share the link to her own Instagram photo of her in a bikini? Clearly she doesn’t mind the attention if she’s posting a photo like that.
Talk to old women who are constantly ignored, and I bet many of them now long for the days when guys gave them attention.
That is all fine but this isn't a thread about Steiner's looks. It's a thread about her running the 400 this past weekend.
On this forum, the looks of women are always brought up when discussing them. That is what objectification of them is. They are women and they are athletes.
False dichotomy, it’s not an either-or.
Like it or not, the body is an object. If considered on its own, that may be considered “objectification”, which to me has zero negative aspects. I used to be hot and was objectified all the time by women, so effing what. They would walk up to me and run their hands over my abs, or through my hair. Those were the days😁
You’ve got to have some kind of a problem if you see a photo of the body of a person you don’t know, and treat it as anything more than the object it is—especially when that photo was published by the person him- or herself, and is obviously designed to highlight or feature certain characteristics of the object that is the body.
To NOT appreciate that body would be an insult to the person who worked so hard to achieve it, and who is rightly proud to display it.
BTW if you want to see some REAL objectification, watch women at a pro swim meet, checking out the shaved guys in their speedos. This is NOTHING compared to that free-for-all no-holds-barred objectification!
As a matter of fact, I recall threads on here where guys were (rightly) objectifying some male swimmers, and lamenting that they were infinitely more buff than distance runners.
She didn't run an indoor 400 last season (never has), but she ran 35.80 for 300 which is equivalent to 51-mid. Pretty awesome opener after her endless season last year. What a hoss!
That conversion seems off. I would think it would be more like a 50 mid to low equivalent. some examples, Talitha Diggs ran 36.37 last year and ran 50.98 indoors. Sydney Mclaughlin ran 36.12 indoors and ran 50.36 indoors.
The IAAF tables agree with you (I used a different calculator) ..they give it 22.4/50.3. I'll go along with that. Makes more sense given her strong top end.
That conversion seems off. I would think it would be more like a 50 mid to low equivalent. some examples, Talitha Diggs ran 36.37 last year and ran 50.98 indoors. Sydney Mclaughlin ran 36.12 indoors and ran 50.36 indoors.
The IAAF tables agree with you (I used a different calculator) ..they give it 22.4/50.3. I'll go along with that. Makes more sense given her strong top end.
I try and use conversion ratios - like the 1.08x 1500m to get Mile time.
For this (300m to 400m), for a sprinter, as opposed to a distance runner, I use 1.4x 300m to get 400m time (actual differential is 1.33x). so as above 36.37 x 1.4 = 50.92 (close to her 50.98). 36.12 x 1.4 = 50.57, actual 50.36. These are never perfect, but much easier to work with when converting. The better the endurance (and sprinters are not noted for that) the closer to the actual differential.
That is all fine but this isn't a thread about Steiner's looks. It's a thread about her running the 400 this past weekend.
On this forum, the looks of women are always brought up when discussing them. That is what objectification of them is. They are women and they are athletes.
False dichotomy, it’s not an either-or.
Like it or not, the body is an object. If considered on its own, that may be considered “objectification”, which to me has zero negative aspects. I used to be hot and was objectified all the time by women, so effing what. They would walk up to me and run their hands over my abs, or through my hair. Those were the days😁
You’ve got to have some kind of a problem if you see a photo of the body of a person you don’t know, and treat it as anything more than the object it is—especially when that photo was published by the person him- or herself, and is obviously designed to highlight or feature certain characteristics of the object that is the body.
To NOT appreciate that body would be an insult to the person who worked so hard to achieve it, and who is rightly proud to display it.
BTW if you want to see some REAL objectification, watch women at a pro swim meet, checking out the shaved guys in their speedos. This is NOTHING compared to that free-for-all no-holds-barred objectification!
As a matter of fact, I recall threads on here where guys were (rightly) objectifying some male swimmers, and lamenting that they were infinitely more buff than distance runners.
tl;dr. Take your carp and shove it.
This geezer really typed out hundreds of words and his best ones to start with were:
"well yeh women's bodies are objects so it's ok to objectify".
I used to be hot and was objectified all the time by women, so effing what. They would walk up to me and run their hands over my abs, or through my hair. Those were the days😁
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This is probably an unpopular opinion but if Gabby Thomas gets back into form, she is still the top American in the 200.
This year year could be a tough one for Steiner. On one hand she will race a lot less than she did last year so she should be able to peak better, but on the other hand some of the athletes that were "down" a bit last year may be getting over some injuries. Primarily I am thinking of Thomas, Mboma, and ETH. In addition to those women, I look for SJ to challenge the WR this year and for SAFP, Tamara Clark, DAS, Favour Ofili, and Aminatou Seyni to be in better form.
The competition at the top of the 200 is pretty fierce and I can foresee Steiner possibly not having a top 10 time this season.
This is probably an unpopular opinion but if Gabby Thomas gets back into form, she is still the top American in the 200.
This year year could be a tough one for Steiner. On one hand she will race a lot less than she did last year so she should be able to peak better, but on the other hand some of the athletes that were "down" a bit last year may be getting over some injuries. Primarily I am thinking of Thomas, Mboma, and ETH. In addition to those women, I look for SJ to challenge the WR this year and for SAFP, Tamara Clark, DAS, Favour Ofili, and Aminatou Seyni to be in better form.
The competition at the top of the 200 is pretty fierce and I can foresee Steiner possibly not having a top 10 time this season.
Get outta town. She's going to have a great year and look hot doing it.
Get outta town. She's going to have a great year and look hot doing it.
You don't comprehend well.
I didn't say that she isn't going to have a great year. I just said that some that were injured last year will be coming back and she will need to work that much harder to maintain her spot in the echelon of where she was last season. The competition will be greater this year than last.
I used to be hot and was objectified all the time by women, so effing what. They would walk up to me and run their hands over my abs, or through my hair. Those were the days😁
The internet - where anyone can invent whatever reality about themselves that they want to…
The internet--where anybody who has actually had a life has to put up with losers and wannabes.
I have ZERO problem with admitting my weaknesses, for instance that I was internationally a never-was wanna-be in the 100m. I also have ZERO problem with truths in the other direction.