You're allowed to run on the track in a spikeless shoe. The rule he broke and/or wanted to break in his next race regards the thickness of the sole. The Vaporfly was too tall. He wasn't told he must wear something with spikes, but rather a thinner shoe with or without them.
^^^This, no?!? Is the athlete in question not at all familiar with what used to be called a true racing flat?!?
Exactly. Even Renato means 40mm stacks when he uses the term 'racing shoes'. Plenty of spikeless shoes exist under the limit (25mm for track I think?) many of which would be accurately called 'racing shoes'. I wear adidas Sub-2 on track. Lighter than clunky Nike 'racing shoes' and easier conrnering too since they are not tall, mushy, and unstable. Since when are there exactly 2 choices: thin, midsole-less spikes, and Nike Vaporfly?
Anyway, good to see him in Puma. Wasn't he the guy fired by asics after being caught in Nike?
^^^This, no?!? Is the athlete in question not at all familiar with what used to be called a true racing flat?!?
Exactly. Even Renato means 40mm stacks when he uses the term 'racing shoes'. Plenty of spikeless shoes exist under the limit (25mm for track I think?) many of which would be accurately called 'racing shoes'. I wear adidas Sub-2 on track. Lighter than clunky Nike 'racing shoes' and easier conrnering too since they are not tall, mushy, and unstable. Since when are there exactly 2 choices: thin, midsole-less spikes, and Nike Vaporfly?
Anyway, good to see him in Puma. Wasn't he the guy fired by asics after being caught in Nike?
Yes, he's the one who left ASICS. Saying he was "fired" by ASICS might be too strong a statement though. He's in good company at PUMA though with former Portland State star Roudolff Levisse (France) shooting for a good marathon in the 2:08:00 -2:10:00 range in the Spring. Levisse is the son of former French monster, Pierre Levisse, a French cross country legend with top 7 in World Cross twice, and 27:52/10,000 around 1982.
What I find super impressive about the Norwegian, Moen, is that with his 348 752 credentials he is able to run 13:20/27:24 which means that he's one of the athletes who is able to sustain his native pace closest to his ultimate threshold more than any other athlete that I know of. Typically 13:20/27:24 type athletes would be minimum 4:00/mile or 3:42/1500, but more likely 3:39/7:45 speed. Hopefully the Norwegian monster will get back to his previous best and he's in good hands with Italian professor, Canova.
Don't you think it could have been interesting to see the wizard js to take on Moen? He use to brag here he's at least as good as Canova. Had been thrilling to follow.
Yes, you brag a lot, Jan, but you show zero good results. That is why there isn't a single elite athlete who wants to be coached by you.
Don't you think it could have been interesting to see the wizard js to take on Moen? He use to brag here he's at least as good as Canova. Had been thrilling to follow.
Yes, you brag a lot, Jan, but you show zero good results. That is why there isn't a single elite athlete who wants to be coached by you.
I think JS's forte is training sub elites who have lives and families and aiming for 14:30/30:00/1:05:00/2:20:00. Already honourable times. JS himself achieved those times so there's no reason his athletes could not reach similar standards.
^^^This, no?!? Is the athlete in question not at all familiar with what used to be called a true racing flat?!?
Exactly. Even Renato means 40mm stacks when he uses the term 'racing shoes'. Plenty of spikeless shoes exist under the limit (25mm for track I think?) many of which would be accurately called 'racing shoes'. I wear adidas Sub-2 on track. Lighter than clunky Nike 'racing shoes' and easier conrnering too since they are not tall, mushy, and unstable. Since when are there exactly 2 choices: thin, midsole-less spikes, and Nike Vaporfly?
Anyway, good to see him in Puma. Wasn't he the guy fired by asics after being caught in Nike?
Yes. Even though I am rooting on him it made me severely question his management.
Yes, you brag a lot, Jan, but you show zero good results. That is why there isn't a single elite athlete who wants to be coached by you.
I think JS's forte is training sub elites who have lives and families and aiming for 14:30/30:00/1:05:00/2:20:00. Already honourable times. JS himself achieved those times so there's no reason his athletes could not reach similar standards.
Why would that level be JS forte? He has achieved zero success with runners of that level who also avoid him at all costs.
I know you are just trying to be nice about your friend but we should also be accurate and truthful