Cool story: 6 yrs ago, he was a recovering meth/heroin addict who smoked 2 packs a day. Now he's a 2:16 OTrials marathoner

You CAN dig yourself out of a self-imposed $hit hole with Faith in God & Yourself! Keep going buddy - You're doing the right thing and don't ever let those maggots back in!!!!

Total BRO!!!

Hayduke wrote:

rojo wrote:

This is a GREAT story for everyone to enjoy on XMAS.

Meet Mitch Ammons. As a freshman in HS, he ran a 4:50 mile. Then he started doing drugs and didn't run again until 2016 when he picked it up while trying to kick a heroine/meth addiction while smoking 2-packs a day.

Now he's run 2:16:48 and is going to the Olympic Marathon Trials.

Link:www.statesman.com/story/sports/local/2...

I got a better story.... how bout the guy who never wasted life on heroin or meth and runs pretty slow. Rather meet that guy

Merry Christmas to you. I bet you’re a ton of fun to be around.

Miserable Pr####_embed0_####amp;k wrote:

Hayduke wrote:

I got a better story.... how bout the guy who never wasted life on heroin or meth and runs pretty slow. Rather meet that guy

Merry Christmas to you. I bet you’re a ton of fun to be around.

Yeah, but he did everything right and he wants you to know it!

What’s the Kevin Castile story?

Born with talent and/or good pharmacist. I didn’t do drugs and worked.

Hayduke wrote:

Judgemental would be if the person was an alcoholic or couldn’t kick cigarettes. These are legal and accepted. heroin and meth are not accepted and very hard to come by, and must be obtained illegally. so it is not unreasonable or an unfair judgment

You’re missing the point. The point isn't that the guy messed up. Everyone agrees he did. The point is he turned things around. Sure, it’s better to be all-perfect all the time. But none of us are.

Hayduke wrote:

I got a better story.... how bout the guy who never wasted life on heroin or meth and runs pretty slow. Rather meet that guy

Boooorring

JKT wrote:

What’s the Kevin Castile story?

And that over 50 former addict who is now tearing it up.

That progression is sus as hell. If he was willing to use heroin and meth, then he’s surely doping now. He just replaced one high with another. Screw that guy and his bogus 2:16.

GettingFasterDude wrote:

Hayduke wrote:

Judgemental would be if the person was an alcoholic or couldn’t kick cigarettes. These are legal and accepted. heroin and meth are not accepted and very hard to come by, and must be obtained illegally. so it is not unreasonable or an unfair judgment

You’re missing the point. The point isn't that the guy messed up. Everyone agrees he did. The point is he turned things around. Sure, it’s better to be all-perfect all the time. But none of us are.

Naw. This is the “everyone makes mistakes “ arguments. Yes everyone does, but there are mistakes and messing up, and there are choices. You can’t just walk into a grocery store and get Meth or heroin. there is a difference between a fender bender and rape. Everything that is wrong isn’t simply a mistake or Messing up. There is a spectrum

Not fooled wrote:

That progression is sus as hell. If he was willing to use heroin and meth, then he’s surely doping now. He just replaced one high with another. Screw that guy and his bogus 2:16.

Why? "He got fast too quickly" Or... "He got fast faster than me and is faster than me" ?

"If he was willing to use heroin and meth, then he’s surely doping now" There is a big difference actually - the former hurts only yourself, the latter hurts other. Does he have a track record of cheating and hurting others for personal gain? (maybe he does, but I haven't seen it).

He's clearly crazy talented deeply focused on (addicted to) improving. How slowly would he need to improve or what times does he need to run for you to applaud him? 2:25? 2:30?

This is a good example of why you can't please everyone nor should you try.

If he is doing PEDs I hope he's caught. Until then, I won't be a hater, I think turn around stories are awesome (this dude could easily be dead, his story over), and I suggest you do the same.

I rescind my original happy first post. This is not Merry XMAS Rojo. This is Ebenezer Scrooge Rojo.

The title of the thread should have been - Be depressed. Talent is everything in running. You can not run in HS or college, do drugs and still make the Trials if you are super talented.

Yoier wrote:

nwrunnerboi wrote:

This is awesome. Shows how ovverrated grinding out miles for decades is.

This is him less than 10 years ago. Huge transformation.

Tweet:twitter.com/mitchDTX89/photo

Well if you are willing to take heroin I imagine EPO would be on the table. But either way he has done well, super shoes or not.

There's no question that he's doping. Way too quick of an improvement at an old age, especially considering the permanent damage cigarettes have on lungs.

Everyone is missing the point and too focused on the addiction part(judging or not judging).

A guy who didn't run track in college or grades 10 through 12 just qualified for the oly trials!

Incredible!

Wow, either you are:

1) A high school kid with a naive, limited view of reality who hasn't lived life or seen its complexity.

Or

2) You're a miserable adult with your head stuck waaaaaay up your ass.

I hope it's the first one. Gaining maturity is the easiest way to temper your biases.

When it comes to good time running stories one should adopt “If it’s too good to be true, it likely is” policy.

Past behavior is the best indicator of future behavior.

Unfortunately, in these dark days of drugs and doping, one must assume there might be the chance of unnatural gains when someone achieves better than normal results.

He won’t make any Olympic teams, but he did win a half-‘Thon. Mary Akor and Christian Hesch come to mind as runners who cheated and stole money from clean athletes.

Fun fact for the boards today. There is no such thing as an addictive personality. There are only addictive substances which cause addiction. Good to see this guy turned his life around.

CartmanBrah wrote:

Wow, either you are:

1) A high school kid with a naive, limited view of reality who hasn't lived life or seen its complexity.

Or

2) You're a miserable adult with your head stuck waaaaaay up your ass.

I hope it's the first one. Gaining maturity is the easiest way to temper your biases.

And your someone who has a trainspotting poster on your wall and thinks cuz you smoked pot once you know what type of person does heroin.

Not fooled wrote:

That progression is sus as hell. If he was willing to use heroin and meth, then he’s surely doping now. He just replaced one high with another. Screw that guy and his bogus 2:16.

Could you detail his progression so I can decide if your accusation has merit?

Thanks.