I have no idea if she’s doping or not, but your litmus test for whether or not someone is doping apprears to be, “Are they running good times?”
I can’t imagine your association with track can be remotely enjoyable, since it’s impossible to cheer for anyone, because if that person does well, your conclusion is, “DOPER!”
Just saying I feel bad for you. Why even follow the sport?
Not "good" times - ridiculous times. Yes - it is hard to cheer for a dirty sport. I guess I follow it the same way I follow events like the farce that is American democracy or the war in Ukraine. They are hard to overlook.
Unlike American politics and the war in Ukraine, track and field is not hard to overlook at all. It's not like it's on all day everywhere you look. In fact, someone who is interested has to make an effort to seek it out.
If you find the sport to be so disgusting just find another one to follow and maybe you won't be so miserable.
The levels of utter delusion or dishonesty when discussing the top levels of this sport are always embarrassing.
Lets have a look at the all time top 10 in the women's 1500 shall we:
1) Dibaba
2)Kipyegon
3) Qu (China)
4) Jiang (China)
5) Kipyegon (again).
6) Lang (China)
7) Wang (China)
8) Hassan (LOL)
9) Kanzankina (Soviet Union)
I mean, are they kidding us? This is a list of the worst and most obvious dopers in the sport, starting with Dibaba. Yet people on here are actually arguing that Kipyegon is not doping despite beating the times of some of the most notorious dopers in sports history, almost beating the WR of another notorious doper (analogous to a sprinter beating FloJo's WR), and destroying other world class runners just as dopers always do (Just look at what the Chinese did to the Kenyans and everyone else during the Ma's Army era). To the doping apologists on this board we were not all born yesterday. If you have a vested interest in rooting for your hero, do so. But don't insult everyone's intelligence. Kipyegon is a doper and an athletic fraud. She has lots of company. Are you guys going to roll out that East African running gene again? If that does not work shout "racism." It is good for a laugh. :)
It could be that Kipyegon is just freakishly talented (as has been illustrated over the years) so she can beat their times naturally. Do you believe you can dope yourself to a 3:25 1500m? Of course not, because you don't have the talent. Likewise, the Ma's Army just aren't that talented, so when a supreme talent comes along, their doped-up records were shattered into pieces. Doping can only get you so far. It's still about talent and hard work.
The levels of utter delusion or dishonesty when discussing the top levels of this sport are always embarrassing.
Lets have a look at the all time top 10 in the women's 1500 shall we:
1) Dibaba
2)Kipyegon
3) Qu (China)
4) Jiang (China)
5) Kipyegon (again).
6) Lang (China)
7) Wang (China)
8) Hassan (LOL)
9) Kanzankina (Soviet Union)
I mean, are they kidding us? This is a list of the worst and most obvious dopers in the sport, starting with Dibaba. Yet people on here are actually arguing that Kipyegon is not doping despite beating the times of some of the most notorious dopers in sports history, almost beating the WR of another notorious doper (analogous to a sprinter beating FloJo's WR), and destroying other world class runners just as dopers always do (Just look at what the Chinese did to the Kenyans and everyone else during the Ma's Army era). To the doping apologists on this board we were not all born yesterday. If you have a vested interest in rooting for your hero, do so. But don't insult everyone's intelligence. Kipyegon is a doper and an athletic fraud. She has lots of company. Are you guys going to roll out that East African running gene again? If that does not work shout "racism." It is good for a laugh. :)
It could be that Kipyegon is just freakishly talented (as has been illustrated over the years) so she can beat their times naturally. Do you believe you can dope yourself to a 3:25 1500m? Of course not, because you don't have the talent. Likewise, the Ma's Army just aren't that talented, so when a supreme talent comes along, their doped-up records were shattered into pieces. Doping can only get you so far. It's still about talent and hard work.
Yeah, is it really so presposterous to believe that Faith Kipyegon is 8 seconds faster than Heather MacLean on talent alone? I mean she has been winning world championships since she was 16 so there probably is an actual talent gap between her and the rest of the field.
People accept that talent gaps exist in other sports all the time. Was Michael Jordan so much better because he was doping? Posters like astro accept that massive talent gaps exist on the HS level but yet they cannot exit in professional track.
Very unlikely that she is juiced. She is just a very hard working Kenyan runner, working hard and reaping the benefits of very organized and systematic training, with almost 100 percent of her intervals on the track (mostly at the Kipchoge stadium in Eldoret) done with male pacers. I was there in April/May this year in Eldoret and saw her train at the stadium with my own eyes. What stood out for me was the efficiency and quasi perfect form of her running form with an apparent total lack of inefficient movements, unfortunately so common in many other Kenyan female runners.
In addition, Faith is a God Fearing Christian, which would make it unlikely for her to engage in illicit practices. Some people might consider this a silly and irrelevant point, but it is worth mentioning, nevertheless. In short I think that most people have faith in Faith.
Sometimes I wonder why people like you bother to follow track. Is accusing everyone of doping so much fun? Do you derive enjoyment from that? You must be bored out of your fking mind to write the same sh1t everyday.
You might be out of your "f*cking mind" (to use your expression) to ignore what is as obvious as a train crash in front of you. The antidoping authorities have admitted they can't catch the dopers. So there it is.
Not "good" times - ridiculous times. Yes - it is hard to cheer for a dirty sport. I guess I follow it the same way I follow events like the farce that is American democracy or the war in Ukraine. They are hard to overlook.
Unlike American politics and the war in Ukraine, track and field is not hard to overlook at all. It's not like it's on all day everywhere you look. In fact, someone who is interested has to make an effort to seek it out.
If you find the sport to be so disgusting just find another one to follow and maybe you won't be so miserable.
The levels of utter delusion or dishonesty when discussing the top levels of this sport are always embarrassing.
Lets have a look at the all time top 10 in the women's 1500 shall we:
1) Dibaba
2)Kipyegon
3) Qu (China)
4) Jiang (China)
5) Kipyegon (again).
6) Lang (China)
7) Wang (China)
8) Hassan (LOL)
9) Kanzankina (Soviet Union)
I mean, are they kidding us? This is a list of the worst and most obvious dopers in the sport, starting with Dibaba. Yet people on here are actually arguing that Kipyegon is not doping despite beating the times of some of the most notorious dopers in sports history, almost beating the WR of another notorious doper (analogous to a sprinter beating FloJo's WR), and destroying other world class runners just as dopers always do (Just look at what the Chinese did to the Kenyans and everyone else during the Ma's Army era). To the doping apologists on this board we were not all born yesterday. If you have a vested interest in rooting for your hero, do so. But don't insult everyone's intelligence. Kipyegon is a doper and an athletic fraud. She has lots of company. Are you guys going to roll out that East African running gene again? If that does not work shout "racism." It is good for a laugh. :)
It could be that Kipyegon is just freakishly talented (as has been illustrated over the years) so she can beat their times naturally. Do you believe you can dope yourself to a 3:25 1500m? Of course not, because you don't have the talent. Likewise, the Ma's Army just aren't that talented, so when a supreme talent comes along, their doped-up records were shattered into pieces. Doping can only get you so far. It's still about talent and hard work.
No, it isn't. It's about talent, hard work - and doping.
It could be that Kipyegon is just freakishly talented (as has been illustrated over the years) so she can beat their times naturally. Do you believe you can dope yourself to a 3:25 1500m? Of course not, because you don't have the talent. Likewise, the Ma's Army just aren't that talented, so when a supreme talent comes along, their doped-up records were shattered into pieces. Doping can only get you so far. It's still about talent and hard work.
Yeah, is it really so presposterous to believe that Faith Kipyegon is 8 seconds faster than Heather MacLean on talent alone? I mean she has been winning world championships since she was 16 so there probably is an actual talent gap between her and the rest of the field.
People accept that talent gaps exist in other sports all the time. Was Michael Jordan so much better because he was doping? Posters like astro accept that massive talent gaps exist on the HS level but yet they cannot exit in professional track.
The margins at the global level will necessarily be smaller than at a high school or college level. The talent pool internationally is much wider. So when athletes at a world level dominate the competition as though it doesn't even exist that defies what we understand about the nature of professional sport. It tells us there is another factor in play.
The levels of utter delusion or dishonesty when discussing the top levels of this sport are always embarrassing.
Lets have a look at the all time top 10 in the women's 1500 shall we:
1) Dibaba
2)Kipyegon
3) Qu (China)
4) Jiang (China)
5) Kipyegon (again).
6) Lang (China)
7) Wang (China)
8) Hassan (LOL)
9) Kanzankina (Soviet Union)
I mean, are they kidding us? This is a list of the worst and most obvious dopers in the sport, starting with Dibaba. Yet people on here are actually arguing that Kipyegon is not doping despite beating the times of some of the most notorious dopers in sports history, almost beating the WR of another notorious doper (analogous to a sprinter beating FloJo's WR), and destroying other world class runners just as dopers always do (Just look at what the Chinese did to the Kenyans and everyone else during the Ma's Army era). To the doping apologists on this board we were not all born yesterday. If you have a vested interest in rooting for your hero, do so. But don't insult everyone's intelligence. Kipyegon is a doper and an athletic fraud. She has lots of company. Are you guys going to roll out that East African running gene again? If that does not work shout "racism." It is good for a laugh. :)
It could be that Kipyegon is just freakishly talented (as has been illustrated over the years) so she can beat their times naturally. Do you believe you can dope yourself to a 3:25 1500m? Of course not, because you don't have the talent. Likewise, the Ma's Army just aren't that talented, so when a supreme talent comes along, their doped-up records were shattered into pieces. Doping can only get you so far. It's still about talent and hard work.
"Freakish talent" is always the justification for dopers. Not doped, they aren't quite so "freakish".
Nobody on this board actually knows who is clean for sure. What I will say is that Kipyegon was a massive talent from the beginning, running 3:56 as a 19 year old. There's no suspicious year-over-year improvement that would point to when she started doping, and as far as I'm aware she doesn't have any questionable coach or agent associations. Her only red flag is that she's really freaking fast. That's not the case for Dibaba or any of the Chinese runners.
As a track fan you have to be skeptical of any all-time performance, but I'm willing to give Kipyegon the benefit of the doubt until shown otherwise. I hope she comes back to Monaco next year and breaks 3:50
The levels of utter delusion or dishonesty when discussing the top levels of this sport are always embarrassing.
Lets have a look at the all time top 10 in the women's 1500 shall we:
1) Dibaba
2)Kipyegon
3) Qu (China)
4) Jiang (China)
5) Kipyegon (again).
6) Lang (China)
7) Wang (China)
8) Hassan (LOL)
9) Kanzankina (Soviet Union)
I mean, are they kidding us? This is a list of the worst and most obvious dopers in the sport, starting with Dibaba. Yet people on here are actually arguing that Kipyegon is not doping despite beating the times of some of the most notorious dopers in sports history, almost beating the WR of another notorious doper (analogous to a sprinter beating FloJo's WR), and destroying other world class runners just as dopers always do (Just look at what the Chinese did to the Kenyans and everyone else during the Ma's Army era). To the doping apologists on this board we were not all born yesterday. If you have a vested interest in rooting for your hero, do so. But don't insult everyone's intelligence. Kipyegon is a doper and an athletic fraud. She has lots of company. Are you guys going to roll out that East African running gene again? If that does not work shout "racism." It is good for a laugh. :)
Kipyegon is a mommy with even scars to boot, and we all know that mothers can do no wrong. QED.
As opposed to writing the same doping apologia over and over? Fun. Virtually no one cares about professional distance running. Ask yourself why that is. Maybe people don't want to bother with a fake, dope infested sport. They know what it is even if you so persistently deny it. Is it fun following a sport that is not even third tier? You ask why I follow it yet doping apologists like you have killed it. The reality does not change because you dislike it. And not talking about doping honestly just makes things worse.
Shut up with the same old nonsense. There are no PEDs it's a delusional belief. It's people like you that poison the sport.
There is no Superhuman metabolism. That's not how metabolism works.
As opposed to writing the same doping apologia over and over? Fun. Virtually no one cares about professional distance running. Ask yourself why that is. Maybe people don't want to bother with a fake, dope infested sport. They know what it is even if you so persistently deny it. Is it fun following a sport that is not even third tier? You ask why I follow it yet doping apologists like you have killed it. The reality does not change because you dislike it. And not talking about doping honestly just makes things worse.
Shut up with the same old nonsense. There are no PEDs it's a delusional belief. It's people like you that poison the sport.
There is no Superhuman metabolism. That's not how metabolism works.