Haiti is a f*cked up place. Don't let your intrigue take you there until things really change. You will likely have to pay bribes, often at gunpoint if you want to travel around the country, and you risk your life/freedom due to kidnapping if you go there.
You make it sound like paradise. It's much worse than this.
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Always been intriqed with this island, the voodoo thing I suppose. Also that story about how a slave became their leader, talking Henri Christophe, talk about an interesting story there it is. Google with work.
Another Haitian story is that of a soccer player named Silvio Cator, in 1928 he would become the first 26 foot long jumper in history and that is still the national record. There is a stadium named after him and he can be found on a postage stamp. By the way he won the silver at the 1928 Olympics, that 26 footer somewhere else.
Would like to read a book about the Caribbean and track.
Story goes back in the days of Jesse Owens Cuba had a guy named Conrado Rodriquez he was suppose to be something special, so a match race vs Owens was set up, it appears the Cuban backed out. Speaking of Cuba Silvio Leonard was the first sub10,0 Carib sprinter. Black cats with Spanish names, cool~~~
When in the Bahama's drop by Tom Robinson Stadium he was a world class sprinter (went to Michigan) back in the day, not sure about a postage stamp.
I understand the intrigue, but you need to be very careful if you go there. Right now, it is worse than Texas.
Do you see any Texas cities on the most dangerous in the country?
Detroit, Michigan. New Orleans, Louisiana. Baltimore, Maryland. Memphis, Tennessee. Cleveland, Ohio. Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Kansas City, Missouri. Shreveport, Louisiana.
Deno, if you want to know about Haiti’s history beyond your (mostly incorrect) assertions and these people who simply say it’s a f*cked up place, I’m happy to direct you to some solid resources and answer the questions you might have.
Deno, if you want to know about Haiti’s history beyond your (mostly incorrect) assertions and these people who simply say it’s a f*cked up place, I’m happy to direct you to some solid resources and answer the questions you might have.
Deno, if you want to know about Haiti’s history beyond your (mostly incorrect) assertions and these people who simply say it’s a f*cked up place, I’m happy to direct you to some solid resources and answer the questions you might have.
What was incorrect to begin with?
Toussaint Louverture is the former slave who led the 1791 rebellion that liberated Haiti from the French. Dessalines and Christophe were also born into slavery, but they came into power after Toussaint was captured and imprisoned by the French. (He died in French custody.) Toussaint abolished slavery, wrote the constitution, etc. He is the nation’s primary founder. Christophe was the third dictator/leader of Haiti, after Dessalines brief rule.
There were also celebrated Haitian revolutionaries who predated Toussaint, including Dutty Boukman, but Toussaint is generally credited with beginning the overthrow of the French crown.
As others have pointed, Haiti shares the island of Hispaniola with the D.R.
Haiti is a f*cked up place. Don't let your intrigue take you there until things really change. You will likely have to pay bribes, often at gunpoint if you want to travel around the country, and you risk your life/freedom due to kidnapping if you go there.
You make it sound like paradise. It's much worse than this.
Not sure how much more clear I can be...you risk being MURDERED and/or KIDNAPPED and/or ROBBED at gunpoint if you go there. You want to add tortured? Ok. It's a dangerous place, and no one should go there if they don't have to.
Well aware of all that actually but was only talking about this....
Henri Christophe (who used the anglicized version of Henry Christopher) (6 October 1767 – 8 October 1820) was a former slave and key leader in the Haitian Revolution, which succeeded in gaining independence from France in 1804. Christophe created a kingdom in the North and had himself proclaimed Henry I, King of Haïti.
Wasn't looking to cover any more history than that.
Haiti is on an island, pretty safe to say Haiti is an island.
You make it sound like paradise. It's much worse than this.
Not sure how much more clear I can be...you risk being MURDERED and/or KIDNAPPED and/or ROBBED at gunpoint if you go there. You want to add tortured? Ok. It's a dangerous place, and no one should go there if they don't have to.
I think your background in journalism is coloring your perspective, Flag. Maybe you've had colleagues who either couldn't go to Haiti due to its danger, or you have colleagues who got into the kind of difficult spots you describe once they were there. Journalists are typically dealing in dicier territory than the average traveler.
Of course if Deno just showed up in Port-au-Prince by himself, not speaking kreyole or French, probably everything that you describe would happen to him. I get that you're just trying to keep him safe. But I personally know several dozen people who have gone to Haiti for missionary work, aid work, filmmaking, as part of the Haiti Action Network, and as part of black travel groups over the years (I'm talking 1980s, 90s, 2000s, and now) and none of them have had any of the issues you describe. I, myself, have traveled to other countries just as fraught as Haiti w/out too many issues, definitely no guns in the face.
This is in part b/c these organizations pay off or employ the baddies on the front end to give the travelers a "pass," but the point remains that the risks you describe, while real, can be overcome by proper planning.
Not sure how much more clear I can be...you risk being MURDERED and/or KIDNAPPED and/or ROBBED at gunpoint if you go there. You want to add tortured? Ok. It's a dangerous place, and no one should go there if they don't have to.
I think your background in journalism is coloring your perspective, Flag. Maybe you've had colleagues who either couldn't go to Haiti due to its danger, or you have colleagues who got into the kind of difficult spots you describe once they were there. Journalists are typically dealing in dicier territory than the average traveler.
Of course if Deno just showed up in Port-au-Prince by himself, not speaking kreyole or French, probably everything that you describe would happen to him. I get that you're just trying to keep him safe. But I personally know several dozen people who have gone to Haiti for missionary work, aid work, filmmaking, as part of the Haiti Action Network, and as part of black travel groups over the years (I'm talking 1980s, 90s, 2000s, and now) and none of them have had any of the issues you describe. I, myself, have traveled to other countries just as fraught as Haiti w/out too many issues, definitely no guns in the face.
This is in part b/c these organizations pay off or employ the baddies on the front end to give the travelers a "pass," but the point remains that the risks you describe, while real, can be overcome by proper planning.
I know people who have gone to Haiti for missionary work also...they were kidnapped, robbed at gunpoint, and then (not anyone I knew personally thank goodness) workers at the orphanage where they did their missionary were murdered, and the orphanage was closed.
I would not go to Haiti for any reason whatsoever. Proper planning would be to stay away from that hell hole.
Why do we see so much violence with black folks, be it Chicago, Detroit, NFL, Haiti, Nigeria, where ever we see a lot of black people here comes all that violence. Why?
I am not sure if this comment of yours will be well received.
Why do we see so much violence with black folks, be it Chicago, Detroit, NFL, Haiti, Nigeria, where ever we see a lot of black people here comes all that violence. Why?
As far as Haiti goes, the US decided to back and support a string of bad authoritarian leaders there to serve as a bulwark against communism, as was generally the case in Latin America at the time. These dictators robbed their own nations to accumulate personal wealth and power
I think your background in journalism is coloring your perspective, Flag. Maybe you've had colleagues who either couldn't go to Haiti due to its danger, or you have colleagues who got into the kind of difficult spots you describe once they were there. Journalists are typically dealing in dicier territory than the average traveler.
Of course if Deno just showed up in Port-au-Prince by himself, not speaking kreyole or French, probably everything that you describe would happen to him. I get that you're just trying to keep him safe. But I personally know several dozen people who have gone to Haiti for missionary work, aid work, filmmaking, as part of the Haiti Action Network, and as part of black travel groups over the years (I'm talking 1980s, 90s, 2000s, and now) and none of them have had any of the issues you describe. I, myself, have traveled to other countries just as fraught as Haiti w/out too many issues, definitely no guns in the face.
This is in part b/c these organizations pay off or employ the baddies on the front end to give the travelers a "pass," but the point remains that the risks you describe, while real, can be overcome by proper planning.
I know people who have gone to Haiti for missionary work also...they were kidnapped, robbed at gunpoint, and then (not anyone I knew personally thank goodness) workers at the orphanage where they did their missionary were murdered, and the orphanage was closed.
I would not go to Haiti for any reason whatsoever. Proper planning would be to stay away from that hell hole.
I hear you. I hope you took from the comment that I was not trying to invalidate your opinion nor your experience, just providing an additional point of view. I'm sorry that that happened to the missionaries you know. The risks you stated are very real.
Why do we see so much violence with black folks, be it Chicago, Detroit, NFL, Haiti, Nigeria, where ever we see a lot of black people here comes all that violence. Why?
Asking this question here probably isn't going to elicit very many thoughtful responses.
