Here is our interview with her. Jonathan Gault asks her if she is able to run the 800 and she said yeah.
Now he didn't ask her if she is elible to run the women's 800 in elite women's competition. An intersex athlete could always run the 800 in open competition or pratice.
I just watched Werkwuha Getachew race against other females in the opening rounds of the WC womens steeplechase and Getachew displays many masculine characteristics, far too many when compared to other Ethiopian female distance runner, or other female distance runners from other countries.
I am curious because of the number of male-to-female trans athletes out there. I accept and love them all. I am just curiouso!
Why would anyone support biological males being able to compete against females. Wanting to be a woman doesn’t make you a woman. To allow this to continue is complete nonsense or should I say unfair and stupid.
Do people really still not understand the difference between DSD and trans? One is assigned at birth, the other is chosen later in life and involves transitioning. Most of the DSD athletes believed they were girls throughout their upbringing and will identify as such
Why would anyone support biological males being able to compete against females. Wanting to be a woman doesn’t make you a woman. To allow this to continue is complete nonsense or should I say unfair and stupid.
Do people really still not understand the difference between DSD and trans? One is assigned at birth, the other is chosen later in life and involves transitioning. Most of the DSD athletes believed they were girls throughout their upbringing and will identify as such
Fact is, a lot of people on these boards don't care about the difference. They just want an opportunity to look morally superior and be spiteful.
If anyone does care: DSD athletes (XXY athletes / intersex athletes) express external (genital) characteristics of being female early in life. As they mature, their testosterone levels are higher, and they express some physical features in body shape more like men. I might not agree that XXY athletes should be able to compete against XX athletes due to their inherent advantages with that Y chromosome, but 1) they are women and 2) there should be mechanisms to let them compete and represent their nation.
M2W trans athletes also have inherent advantages due to their Y chromosome. Their transition might technically be a choice, but their innate biology drives them towards transition. Just like XXY athletes, I don't agree they should be able compete against XX women, but 1) they are women and 2) there should be mechanisms to let them compete and represent their nation.
Maybe we should start competitions and awards for intersex and M2W athletes like we have for paralympics? Imagine an intersex 800m at the WC. Would be pretty incredible competition, I think!
Here is our interview with her. Jonathan Gault asks her if she is able to run the 800 and she said yeah.
Now he didn't ask her if she is elible to run the women's 800 in elite women's competition. An intersex athlete could always run the 800 in open competition or pratice.
Here is our interview with her. Jonathan Gault asks her if she is able to run the 800 and she said yeah.
Now he didn't ask her if she is elible to run the women's 800 in elite women's competition. An intersex athlete could always run the 800 in open competition or pratice.
If the rules are clear, what was the point of asking the question, unless you are trying to make them feel bad, or other?
Maybe you are trying to get the person to open up and see how they feel about the rules, if they themselves are at all conflicted, do they experience misgivings from fellow competitors, etc. If so, then you need to actually ask those types of questions.
"Fact is, a lot of people on these boards don't care abut the difference. They just want an opportunity to look morally superior and be spiteful."
No. We want the competition among women to be fair. DSD athletes are coming in because they and their federations/agents have a chance to make money. They have a clear genetic and physical advantage that means they are in another category.
Did you see Semenya physically next to the ladies in the 5000? Tell me they are the same.
I get it. They are poor and from poor countries and this is a way they can make money to live. I would just as soon write them a check and let them compete with the men.
When will we see an intersex athlete just slaughter a women’s WR? I’d have thought somewhere there’s an intersex woman who, by virtue of being in-between, could show us a 3:46 1500 or a sub-14 5k. Are they holding back a bit? I always thought Caster was when she was running the 1500.
1. XX women can run sub 14, Gidey is already at 14:06 with a substantial portion solo
2. intersex women make up a small portion of the population. There are several tiny countries where the best man can't even touch the women's world record. Its simply a numbers game.
3. intersex women must undergo hormone therapy to keep their testoserone below the limt in the 1500. When Semenya did this it added 5 - 10 seconds to her 800m times! Now for the 5k this isn't required, but for the 1500 it is. If she runs 3:46 on hormone therapy that means she needs to be a sub 3:35 runner without hormone therapy. There just aren't enough runners who can run sub 3:35 for this to happen. Maybe in the 5k, where they don't need hormone therapy this is possible. Francine showed us at the olympics.
So if memory serves, the athletes who have been banned, or limited in events, for being inter-sex are African. Is this more of an African phenomena? In other words, where are European or American inter-sex athletes? do they not gravitate toward track and field?
