For many LR posters you're guilty until proven innocent. But the problem is how does someone prove their innocence beyond having negative tests. That's not good enough for the "2 the gills" crowd. If they say someone is doping of course they are. Nothing that that person can say will change their minds. Yes, some athletes have positive tests so that's a different story. And maybe some athletes and their coaches are adept at not getting positive tests. But where do these accusations end? I wish I had the answer to this.