No one has ever run a 200m in a sub-4 1500m race sub 24 before, to my knowledge. 23.63 is pretty close to the fastest 200m opening in any 800m race, I believe. Farken's last 400m was about 51.8-51.9, but he closed his last 200m in 24.92 while easing up and jogging the last 10m. He looked like Jim Ryun at Dusseldorf 1967 (3:38 with an apparent 36/50 close on rutted dirt) for a while down the backstretch. Watch out for this guy in any slow championship race.
Also, Assmann is awfully aggressive for a guy with his own vanity plates.
Jeilan ran about a 53 second last lap in a 27:13 10000m in 2011. Not really comparable. Nowhere near as fast but of course in a reasonably fast race and a long race. No, there may have been comparable 1500m finishes only in a few races like a Spaniard running maybe 49.6 in the 1980s, Ryun in 1967 in Dusseldorf, and of course quite a few last 200s in low 24 by Coe.
http://athletics.channel4.com/ IAAF World Championships 2011, Daegu, South Korea.In one of the biggest surprises of the Championships, a late charge by Ehti...
Is that the fastest ever 200m split in a 1500m race ?Race was (very) slow and tactical, but the winner split 23 seconds from 1200-1400 and 24 seconds from 1300-1500 easing up on the final 100.
Most of the last lap of the last lap of the 1500 meter run in the USA vs Germany Dual Meet in August of 1967. Jim Ryun stuns the field - and spectators - wit...
So here are the results I found for the race from Race Results Weekly.
1500m: Final (27): 1. Robert Farken, SC DHfK Leipzig, 1997, 3:50.70 2. Mohamed Mohumed, LG Olympia Dortmund, 1999, 3:52.34 3. Lukas Abele, SSC Hanau-Rodenbach, 1997, 3:53.78 4. Tim Assmann, TV Villingen, 2000, 3:53.98 5. Marco Sietmann, LG Brillux Münster, 2002, 3:56.27 6. Tim Kalies, Braunschweiger Laufclub, 2004, 3:56.77 7. Constantin Feist, LG Olympia Dortmund, 1999, 3:57.08
I then did a little research and have found race video!!!
He indeed did run a 23.63 from 1200 to 1400. His final 300 was 35.82. I had his final 400 in an unofficial 51.6-7 - the final 200 was 24.92.
If you want to see more of the race, I think you can find it below (The poster above found it but I moved it here as my video links to the end of the race directly. As I was typing, they were posting as well).
Sebastian Coe opened a 1500 in 52 flat due to bad rabbit pacing. Still only missed world record by a tenth.
Another James Robinson pacing disaster. He also screwed Coe out of a 1500m WR in Zurich in late 1984 after the Olympics by running lap two in 60 seconds. Coe still managed a 3:32. If Coe had Bram Som or Sowinski he'd have run well under 3:30 for both races. James Robinson was the worst.
Don't let Coevett or rekrunner or Deanouk see this as 1) they won't believe it; 2) they will list some advantage; 3) they will state timing error; 4) they will say it was a slow race
If you put "rekrunner" in the post, I will find it with the new and improved search function.
Lucky thing I did, as you are mistaken in many ways:
1) Coevett will proably believe it because Farken is not African. Coevett will probably believe that #2 Mohamed Mohumed doped to place as high as 2nd. I believe the performance. I can't speak for Deanouk, but would guess he believes it too.
2) Sure, I would say training and talent tends to give the winners the advantage.
3) I'm not a stickler for exact timing. I trust "rojo" with a stop watch and a YouTube video.
4) The OP said it was a slow race. I don't need to say it, nor would I say otherwise.
The thing is, someone will always be the fastest at something. I don't know why you want to single me out to malign my character with these false ideas.
Not usually impressed by closing speed in slow races as it's almost irrelevant at the very top level right now. But that was impressive to watch, he was even easing down the last 15-20m
Sebastian Coe opened a 1500 in 52 flat due to bad rabbit pacing. Still only missed world record by a tenth.
Another James Robinson pacing disaster. He also screwed Coe out of a 1500m WR in Zurich in late 1984 after the Olympics by running lap two in 60 seconds. Coe still managed a 3:32. If Coe had Bram Som or Sowinski he'd have run well under 3:30 for both races. James Robinson was the worst.
Maybe an Olympian shouldn't be asked to be a pacer. I don't know if you played baseball, but if you did you will know: Never ask a current or former pitcher to pitch batting practice. No matter if 60 years old, current or former pitchers try to make batters miss the ball. Asking an Olympian to be a pace setter, he or she will get tactical.
Just watched the vid. You guys find that impressive? A slow flying 200 at the end of a slow 1500?
Jeilan’s last lap when he won that 10,000m, now that was much better.
This? In all honesty, meh. Maybe I just don’t understand
Impressive or not, Centro won gold off of a very similar performance, both in terms of closing speed as well as the pace before the kick.
This German kid is 24. He ran 3:34/1:45.8 last year and seems to be shaping up in slightly better form this year. Could drop a few seconds this year and become one of the guys battling for relevance, and try to pick up some hardware in championship races if they go to a kick.
So here are the results I found for the race from Race Results Weekly.
1500m: Final (27): 1. Robert Farken, SC DHfK Leipzig, 1997, 3:50.70 2. Mohamed Mohumed, LG Olympia Dortmund, 1999, 3:52.34 3. Lukas Abele, SSC Hanau-Rodenbach, 1997, 3:53.78 4. Tim Assmann, TV Villingen, 2000, 3:53.98 5. Marco Sietmann, LG Brillux Münster, 2002, 3:56.27 6. Tim Kalies, Braunschweiger Laufclub, 2004, 3:56.77 7. Constantin Feist, LG Olympia Dortmund, 1999, 3:57.08
I then did a little research and have found race video!!!
He indeed did run a 23.63 from 1200 to 1400. His final 300 was 35.82. I had his final 400 in an unofficial 51.6-7 - the final 200 was 24.92.
If you want to see more of the race, I think you can find it below (The poster above found it but I moved it here as my video links to the end of the race directly. As I was typing, they were posting as well).
Actually in German “ass” means “ace”. Imagine my bewilderment the first time I saw a headline in a German language newspaper “Roger Federer, Tennis Ass”. In Swiss German, “äss” means something like “eating”. There are pop-up restaurants in Switzerland called “äss bar”.
The winner arrived at the 1200m in just under 3.14. At that level is that really a 1500m or a 300m event?
Put any 400 runner to run 3.14 and after that to run as fast as he can 300 m result will be a lit slower ( don't think 400 runner will be able to run 1300 in 3.15) so yes it's 1500 event and you need 1500 m ability to run it
The winner arrived at the 1200m in just under 3.14. At that level is that really a 1500m or a 300m event?
Put any 400 runner to run 3.14 and after that to run as fast as he can 300 m result will be a lit slower ( don't think 400 runner will be able to run 1300 in 3.15) so yes it's 1500 event and you need 1500 m ability to run it
The winner arrived at the 1200m in just under 3.14. At that level is that really a 1500m or a 300m event?
Exactly. Sorry but that was a 1200m jog for these guys, followed by a 300 that demonstrated no sprint ability whatsoever. So stiff, zero relaxation, way too much backside. Off a 1200m fast jog, that time is IMO not significant.
Yes I know he’s not a sprinter, but then neither is the 200 time cause for awe.
1:04.33’s for the first 3 400’s? Serious question, is that fast for the best 1500 guys?