Stop being an angry triggered punk and learn some history. Finland was liberated from Sweden and became part of Russia in 1809. It tragically separated during the 1917 revolution but the ties remain.
We are now hearing the Swedes complain that it was too cold during the skiing. The Germans complained too. Obviously Russians and Finns are more suited for winter sports.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Stop being an angry triggered punk and learn some history. Finland was liberated from Sweden and became part of Russia in 1809. It tragically separated during the 1917 revolution but the ties remain.
We are now hearing the Swedes complain that it was too cold during the skiing. The Germans complained too. Obviously Russians and Finns are more suited for winter sports.
I follow Canadian Nordic skier Rémi Drolet, who took part in this race finishing 57th and this is what he said on Instagram: “ Jeez, I’ve never blown up so hard in my life. Wax was good, but a pretty bad for me overall. Looking forward to the next one!
Klaebo also blew up. It’s a super hard course and at altitude, so people were really fading hard. Never seen such big gaps in a top level race.”
By the way this kid from Canada, Rémi Drolet is a super smart kid and is enrolled at Harvard University and studies math and physics there. I am amazed he can combine a career as an Olympic Nordic skier and high-level studies in Maths and Physics at Harvard. Kudos to him.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Stop being an angry triggered punk and learn some history. Finland was liberated from Sweden and became part of Russia in 1809. It tragically separated during the 1917 revolution but the ties remain.
We are now hearing the Swedes complain that it was too cold during the skiing. The Germans complained too. Obviously Russians and Finns are more suited for winter sports.
Rémi Drolet, Canadian Olympic Nordic skier and Harvard University maths and physics student. Scroll down for bio profile. Impressive stuff.
https://olympics.com/beijing-2022/olympic-games/en/results/cross-country-skiing/athlete-profile-n1051714-remi-drolet.htmBad Wigins wrote:
Stop being an angry triggered punk and learn some history. Finland was liberated from Sweden and became part of Russia in 1809. It tragically separated during the 1917 revolution but the ties remain.
We are now hearing the Swedes complain that it was too cold during the skiing. The Germans complained too. Obviously Russians and Finns are more suited for winter sports.
You´re a complete idiot. Finland wants to become a member of NATO. There are no "ties" between Finland and Russia.
well,, wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
Stop being an angry triggered punk and learn some history. Finland was liberated from Sweden and became part of Russia in 1809. It tragically separated during the 1917 revolution but the ties remain.
We are now hearing the Swedes complain that it was too cold during the skiing. The Germans complained too. Obviously Russians and Finns are more suited for winter sports.
You´re a complete idiot. Finland wants to become a member of NATO. There are no "ties" between Finland and Russia.
It's useless to try to get through to BW; pointing out his utter and total moronic idiocy will simply cause him to double down on said moronic idiocy. His aspirational ignorance is truly a sight to behold.
What is the use of getting triggered and ruining a thread because you disagree about the very close ties between Finland and Russia?
Sure it "wants" to join NATO, the same way Ukraine "wants" to, even though Ukrainians are essentially Russians and many of them don't want to. The politics don't change the cultural facts. Go research where the Finnic language groups are and see if that helps your anger issues.
Bad Wigins wrote:
What is the use of getting triggered and ruining a thread because you disagree about the very close ties between Finland and Russia?
Sure it "wants" to join NATO, the same way Ukraine "wants" to, even though Ukrainians are essentially Russians and many of them don't want to. The politics don't change the cultural facts. Go research where the Finnic language groups are and see if that helps your anger issues.
Go research the winter war. Finland and Russia couldn't be 2 more different countries by values and national identity.
Ghost1 wrote:
Different mindset and different culture.
I think everybody in XC-skiing, after all that has been said about this case, have come to the conclusion that she did not dope on purpose and didn't achieve any advantagewhat so ever as the dose would have been so incredibly tiny. She has paid her error tenfold.
well,, wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
Stop being an angry triggered punk and learn some history. Finland was liberated from Sweden and became part of Russia in 1809. It tragically separated during the 1917 revolution but the ties remain.
We are now hearing the Swedes complain that it was too cold during the skiing. The Germans complained too. Obviously Russians and Finns are more suited for winter sports.
You´re a complete idiot. Finland wants to become a member of NATO. There are no "ties" between Finland and Russia.
Yea that was weird. Finland is terrified of Russia. Learn some recent history wiggo.
Semiler wrote:
Ghost1 wrote:
Different mindset and different culture.
I think everybody in XC-skiing, after all that has been said about this case, have come to the conclusion that she did not dope on purpose and didn't achieve any advantage what so ever as the dose would have been so incredibly tiny. She has paid her error tenfold.
And this attitude is why doping persists. She gets a gold medal...rewarded for doping. Its worth it to dope. If you are a convicted doper, and you leave everyone in the race gasping for air that are genetic freaks just like you...thats suspicious. She will have a asterisk forever.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Stop being an angry triggered punk and learn some history. Finland was liberated from Sweden and became part of Russia in 1809. It tragically separated during the 1917 revolution but the ties remain.
We are now hearing the Swedes complain that it was too cold during the skiing. The Germans complained too. Obviously Russians and Finns are more suited for winter sports.
You know nothing about Finland and precious little about cross country skiing. Please stay in your lane.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Stop being an angry triggered punk and learn some history. Finland was liberated from Sweden and became part of Russia in 1809. It tragically separated during the 1917 revolution but the ties remain.
“Liberated”? “Tragically”? By your logic Russia has “ties” with every other country in Eastern Europe. I can’t tell whether you are a Russian troll or just an idiot doubling down instead of admitting you were wrong.
go to google and search for a picture of her lips with blisters (2017 i think). it is self explanatory. she took the steroid for 10 days in a row , most of which were after taking the drug test she later failed. her doctor who led ski medical in Norway for 30 years resigned immediately and said he told her it was ok to take. he did not check the instructions. she should have read the directions but said she trusted the doctor. the salve was not considered "performance enhancing " by the FIS or IOC but it did contain a banned steroid so under rule it did not matter. Contrast this with our great taco incident. Norway did have an earlier history where an athlete did got caught using a steroid. the verdict hinged on the interpretation of a very specific technical phase but bottom line is she should have read the instructions and not trusted the doctor. she paid a huge price because she almost certainly would have won 4 golds. there is no one close to her as you can see from the skiathlon this past weekend in Beijing.
Winter War and Continuation War have entered the chat
Wiggins still dumb, I love the consistency
older runner wrote:
go to google and search for a picture of her lips with blisters (2017 i think). it is self explanatory. she took the steroid for 10 days in a row , most of which were after taking the drug test she later failed. her doctor who led ski medical in Norway for 30 years resigned immediately and said he told her it was ok to take. he did not check the instructions. she should have read the directions but said she trusted the doctor. the salve was not considered "performance enhancing " by the FIS or IOC but it did contain a banned steroid so under rule it did not matter. Contrast this with our great taco incident. Norway did have an earlier history where an athlete did got caught using a steroid. the verdict hinged on the interpretation of a very specific technical phase but bottom line is she should have read the instructions and not trusted the doctor. she paid a huge price because she almost certainly would have won 4 golds. there is no one close to her as you can see from the skiathlon this past weekend in Beijing.
I retract my harsh treatment of her if she had a trace of the steroid in question. But jeez oh pete! How on earth can we still have the very best atlete(s) in the world still getting pinched after all these years for using topical corticosteroids? How? There are some conditions where you need a steroid, others where it is perfectly flexible what you use. You dont need a steroid for your lips or your butt rash, they wrok faster but you dont have to use them. Esp if you are eyeing the olympics. Use something else for cripes sake. You are etiher doping, or are a dope. Such a risky behavior.
bigmig19 wrote:
older runner wrote:
go to google and search for a picture of her lips with blisters (2017 i think). it is self explanatory. she took the steroid for 10 days in a row , most of which were after taking the drug test she later failed. her doctor who led ski medical in Norway for 30 years resigned immediately and said he told her it was ok to take. he did not check the instructions. she should have read the directions but said she trusted the doctor. the salve was not considered "performance enhancing " by the FIS or IOC but it did contain a banned steroid so under rule it did not matter. Contrast this with our great taco incident. Norway did have an earlier history where an athlete did got caught using a steroid. the verdict hinged on the interpretation of a very specific technical phase but bottom line is she should have read the instructions and not trusted the doctor. she paid a huge price because she almost certainly would have won 4 golds. there is no one close to her as you can see from the skiathlon this past weekend in Beijing.
I retract my harsh treatment of her if she had a trace of the steroid in question. But jeez oh pete! How on earth can we still have the very best atlete(s) in the world still getting pinched after all these years for using topical corticosteroids? How? There are some conditions where you need a steroid, others where it is perfectly flexible what you use. You dont need a steroid for your lips or your butt rash, they wrok faster but you dont have to use them. Esp if you are eyeing the olympics. Use something else for cripes sake. You are etiher doping, or are a dope. Such a risky behavior.
It was a strange situation where she was training in Italy, and they were using a local pharmacy. In any case she has a record of success especially at distance events dating back to her years as a junior athlete. This medal didn’t come as a real surprise to anyone who follows the sport.
totally agree with you!
If Johaug did intentionally dope, it was the absolute stupidest doping in XC ski history. Why would you dope with a poorly anabolic steroid, that has a long half life in the body and is easy to detect? and then why would you tell doping control about it too? Clearly, she was stupid but she wasn't intentionally doping.
Bad Wigins wrote:
DOPER Johaug who was kicked out of the 2018 olympics for DOPING. Didn't buy her lipstick excuse.
Russia WINS the gold and silver in the men's skiathlong. Finland, basically also part of Russia, takes 3rd.
Finland , part of Russia ???? Go easy on History...
^ how committed can one be to ignorance?
here are some helpful historical FACTS about the history of Finland and Russia:
medieval: The Rus vikings develop and settle the waterways between the Baltic and Black Sea, mixing with the indigenous Finnic peoples. No such thing as "Finland"
next few hundred years: Rus-sia contends with Sweden for sphere of influence in lands between Novgorod and Stockholm. Still no "Finland." Swedish empire eventually holds sway over much of the west of what is now Finland, but cedes it all in the Russo-Swedish war of 1809.
Grand Duchy: As a fiefdom of the Russian empire, the Grand Duchy of Finland achieves many progressive reforms, such as its own parliament and women's suffrage. Early socialists were strong there and the bolsheviks met in Helsinki. In 1917, the Finnish socialists were the first in Russia to gain a parliamentary majority, but the Whites took over in a brutal crackdown and seceded after a civil war, presaging their future alliance with Nazi Germany.
Today, a Finn who crosses east into Russia can converse with a Karelian in basically their own language, but if they cross west into Sweden they speak their second language.
Face the fact that Finns are indelibly tied to Russia.
Are Russian trolls already starting to change publics opinion about Finland? Is Ukraine a done deal and Putin is prepping the next steps in his plans? And in letsrun of all the places??
Why are russian people so silent? I would’t want my country to start any wars or attack anybody.
Can we talk about how crazy hard this Olympic marathon course is?
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