Eileen Gu, world’s greatest free skier chooses China over the USA: agreement, outrage, indifference?

Vineyard Vines wrote:

American dad, Chinese mom, born in USA, raised in USA. Decides she wants to compete for a country run by a repressive regime that dumped Covid onto the world. I hope she stays there permanently. Revoke her USA citizenship.

Trump wanted to turn the U.S. into a repressive regime with himself as Deer Leader.

Literal Leah wrote:

Vineyard Vines wrote:

American dad, Chinese mom, born in USA, raised in USA. Decides she wants to compete for a country run by a repressive regime that dumped Covid onto the world. I hope she stays there permanently. Revoke her USA citizenship.

Trump wanted to turn the U.S. into a repressive regime with himself as Deer Leader.

ADD: The virus was engineered in a University of North Carolina lab which was funded by the U.S. Army to create an antidote for their engineered virus. The University of North Carolina contracted with the Wuhan lab to collect sample for further engineering in the U.S. Think: Army special forces with diehard Trumpers commanded to release some engineered covid into China so that Trump could punch back harder at them ... he lost the trade war he started. Trump War II.

PRC is a step up from SF, so she is smart.

Typical LRC thread filled with middle-aged men that are losers - vineyard vines & kobbs hessler. They somehow think their loser status allows them to pass judgment on a teenager that has accomplished more in her life than they will in their entire lives.

It's one thing to choose to represent a country where you have dual citizenship with the US. It's another thing to represent a country that is going to make you renounce your US citizenship and is as close to an out-and-out enemy of the US as there is. This is borderline traitorous.

kobbshesslerisapussy wrote:

Vineyard Vines wrote:

American dad, Chinese mom, born in USA, raised in USA. Decides she wants to compete for a country run by a repressive regime that dumped Covid onto the world. I hope she stays there permanently. Revoke her USA citizenship.

She represented China prior to Covid, chucklehead.

Making the choice to represent China makes you much worse than a chucklehead, it makes you a puppet of a truly evil government.

so many losers on the LRC forums still hanging out in mommys bas wrote:

Typical LRC thread filled with middle-aged men that are losers - vineyard vines & kobbs hessler. They somehow think their loser status allows them to pass judgment on a teenager that has accomplished more in her life than they will in their entire lives.

Middle aged, yes. And certainly of a different mind set. China steals our intellectual property, makes territorial claims against us, cyber attacks us, represses minorities, there are literally dozens of things the Chinese government does that are strongly anti-American and anti-Democratic. Choosing to compete for them is something I cant comprehend, sorry. This would be like Boston Billy choosing to compete for the USSR back in 1980.

Money over ethics....Athletes are basically self centered people

Hardloper wrote:

Wise Old Man wrote:

By USA law she’s required to renounce her citizenship 6 months after she turns 18. I’m shocked she’s willing to do this. Maybe she thinks she’ll be exempted or somehow above it.

You mean by Chinese law. USA doesn't care if you're a dual citizen

Yes, sorry. China will not allow her to be a dual citizen. If she does not give up her USA citizenship by age 18, then her Chinese citizenship is to be revoked and she should not be able to compete for them. The USA will not allow her to renounce before 6 months after her 18th birthday I believe.

I would think that the next Winter Olympics being in Beijing played a part. If she is a national hero in China, I am sure she can make bank. Probably will not be in China, other than press tours, visit relatives, and the Olympics. The citizenship thing is problematic, maybe something has been worked out. She may view life here as repressive, and not see an issue representing China, and by extension the CPC. I am not saying that is accurate, I am just saying that is how she may see it. Maybe she even thinks she can make a difference.....or it is just about the money, or a combo of things.

She ran against my daughters all of the time in HS and seemed like a very typical, all be it super talented, SF high school kid. Certainly I don’t know her deep motivation. She’s so talented, she would likely be immensely successful and do very well financially in the USA. However, she would not be the cultural icon she will be in China, especially if she wins gold. I suspect she somehow truly believes by doing this she’s going to foster better CPC-USA relations at least at the youth, fashion and sporting level. That would be the positive spin. On the flip side maybe she does think the US is just as repressive as China. Either way, both of these views are more naive than enlightened.

Skiing and snowboarding are relatively new sports in China. The biggest ski resorts in China aren't much bigger than a relatively small ski resort in the US like Monarch Mountain in CO or Loon Mountain in VT (save your fire on East Coast v. Rocky Mountain skiing--just trying to put things into perspective). Gu saw representing China as a way to be a role model for millions of Chinese girls to get into snowboarding and all the different X-game winter events. Chinese culture is still fairly patriarchal and having Gu is a big public figure makes a big difference in girls participating in winter X games sports and just learning to snowboard for fun.

Not sure why Gu is responsible for US foreign policy on China. If anything, her representing China in the winter games might actually help US/Sino relations over the constant drum beat of warmongering spokespeople for Raytheon and other defense contractors who constantly appear on cable TV to tell us how Chairman Xi is going to eat our babies unless we capture the shipping lanes in the South China Sea.

Good post. I’m pretty confident she feels like she’s doing something good for people beyond herself. Whether or not this is misguided or if she’s being manipulated, I’ll leave it to others to debate. I agree, however, that her motives are not purely selfish or that’s she’s only thinking about doing what’s in her best interest. If she does indeed need to give up her USA citizenship, that’s a big sacrifice or the dumbest move ever. Maybe I’m a brainwashed middle aged, privileged, white American, but I’d be frightened to do this.

BTW, anybody watch the Stephon Marbury doc, “A kid from Coney Island?” Marbury found success and happiness in the CPC and he basically lives there full time. Not sure if he’s be willing to give up his US citizenship, but I’m sure he’d think about it. Great movie, worth watching.

i love how everyone screeching about "muh repression, muh evil CPC" are just regurgitating US State Department/mainstream media propaganda while on other threads screeching about how those same organizations are lying to us about covid. could you at least be consistent?

Wait a second. My bad. I definitely recognize her. Total smokeshow! Hope she doesn't get kidnapped by the CCP. I'll be first in line to fight them if they do!!

She’s smart. She has the foresight to see the USA is on its last limbs. Democracy is crumbling after all the lies about election fraud, Congress is owned by corporations, both sides want a civil war to kill each other, just about every big city resembles a third world country, and, by the way, we’ll run out of social security in about 12 years. In 100 years the USA won’t exist. A socialist, communist, or nationalist revolution will happen in the next 100 years and that’ll be that. China is the future.

bumpuds wrote:

kobbshesslerisapussy wrote:

She represented China prior to Covid, chucklehead.

Making the choice to represent China makes you much worse than a chucklehead, it makes you a puppet of a truly evil government.

If China is evil, then what are we? I don't see us being the shining city on the hill seeing as how we've overthrown basically every government in South America, bombed several countries in the Middle East to high hell for 20 years, and are effectively holding the world hostage having 800+ military bases on foreign soil.

I guess every American athlete who ever waved an American flag is, by default, guilty of supporting continent-wide genocide, slavery, agent orange, mass incarceration of blacks, bombing Iraqi, Afghan, Syrian, and Libyan children, among countless other atrocities, huh?

Americans are woefully (or should I say blissfully) ignorant, and you're a prime example of it.

CarlyRaeJepsensMalort wrote:

i love how everyone screeching about "muh repression, muh evil CPC" are just regurgitating US State Department/mainstream media propaganda while on other threads screeching about how those same organizations are lying to us about covid. could you at least be consistent?

You mean the same corporate media that called the Wuhan lab origin of covid a "conspiracy theory" and does nothing to push forward on getting answers? The same State Department that puts out a flaccid "diplomatic boycott" of the Olympics while doing nothing to encourage a marketing boycott which would actually be effective in getting the CCP's attention? The CCP IS evil, and those that don't rely on corporate/gov't propaganda are ell-versed in the why and the how.