Tinman Elite now has 6 guys with 7:42-7:47 3ks this indoor season

Most of the top 3 guys haven't even raced yet. Kiptoo, Nico Young, Nur, Gilman, Bosley, Garcia Romo, and more.

#16 in the NCAA is currently 7:53. It's going to take 7:48 to qualify.

Joey is my favorite Tinman. I follow him on IG (insert dream eyes here)

That's my point. They'd by 20 seconds ahead of Tinman Elite's best and brightest.

aztec the moronic wrote:

Most of the top 3 guys haven't even raced yet. Kiptoo, Nico Young, Nur, Gilman, Bosley, Garcia Romo, and more.

#16 in the NCAA is currently 7:53. It's going to take 7:48 to qualify.

Kiptoo ran 7:55 on Saturday.

ljs wrote:

Is there a USATF Indoor Champs that selects the team for those who have qualifiers?

February 26 and 27 in Spokane.

Charlie Watts wrote:

10 seconds may be too much. But 5 seconds would be too little. Somewhere in-between. We all have to adjust our perspective. ~3:57 is the new 4:00. ~7:54 is the new 8:00. There are 7 NCAA runners currently under 7:50 (in January!). You may need to run 7:47 just to qualify for NCAAs this year. So a guy like Drew Hunter running 7:42 is maybe just not noteworthy. Pretend it was 7:48-9 from 3 years ago.

Personally, I don't like what the shoe revolution has done, but it's done, and we need to start adjusting our reactions--what used to be fast times aren't fast anymore.

If not ten then seven seconds. A second per 400m. Would also line-up well with all of the sub-4 miles. Maybe another second to the total time for the BU track.

I agree with your take on the shoe revolution.

theRanMan wrote:

The World champs qualifier is 7:50 right? How many can the US send and will anyone from tinman go ?

They will run USA but nobody will go.

Parsoni may not even make it germany if he pulls out for some injury

questionz wrote:

say what you will but this is the best they've ever looked as a group

hunter - 7:42

gusman - 7:44

coleman - 7:44

parsons - 7:44

barazza - 7:45

berriatua - 7:47

Looking good.

Must give credit where credit is due. To be in mid to low 7:40's shape in Jan/Feb is a great indicator for summer success. Keep it going and stay healthy.

Good Luck!

Looks like wesfly trash talk of them motivated them to get serious.

GFC wrote:

Looks like wesfly trash talk of them motivated them to get serious.

Who?

Not my neal rame wrote:

questionz wrote:

say what you will but this is the best they've ever looked as a group

hunter - 7:42

gusman - 7:44

coleman - 7:44

parsons - 7:44

barazza - 7:45

berriatua - 7:47

Without exact times, approximate World athletics scoring table:

1162 hunter - 7:42 =13:13 5000m/3:35.9x 1500m

1150 gusman - 7:44 =13:16 5000m

1150 coleman - 7:44 =13:16 5000m/8:23SC

1150 parsons - 7:44 =13:16 5000m

1143 barazza - 7:45 = 13:18 5000m/8:25SC

1131berriatua - 7:47 = 13:21 5000m/8:28SC

Quite the performances by the group over the weekend. Haters will still hate but 6 guys right around 13:20 for 5k is fantastic in one training group.

questionz wrote:

say what you will but this is the best they've ever looked as a group

hunter - 7:42

gusman - 7:44

coleman - 7:44

parsons - 7:44

barazza - 7:45

berriatua - 7:47

Improvement, depth, and consistency.

Something is working better for these guys than before.

Good on them.

Tall Tree wrote:

questionz wrote:

say what you will but this is the best they've ever looked as a group

hunter - 7:42

gusman - 7:44

coleman - 7:44

parsons - 7:44

barazza - 7:45

berriatua - 7:47

Improvement, depth, and consistency.

Something is working better for these guys than before.

Good on them.

Mom is making them actually do what they learned from Schwartz. She's like Jo Frost for runners.

Cool. And a 20 year old and his 22 year old teammate went 7:39 in their first ever pro race.

Yeah, super shoes are now just shoes and people need to move on.

Shoe technology and improvements should be encouraged, just make sure there are limits as to how far they can go but within that, let the minds run wild.

ForFusion wrote:

Cool. And a 20 year old and his 22 year old teammate went 7:39 in their first ever pro race.

Why is having a lot of good pros an either/or? You can't just be happy for them without bringing other runners up? I'm sorry for whatever they personally did to you.

NERunner03533 wrote:

ForFusion wrote:

Cool. And a 20 year old and his 22 year old teammate went 7:39 in their first ever pro race.

Why is having a lot of good pros an either/or? You can't just be happy for them without bringing other runners up? I'm sorry for whatever they personally did to you.

7:42-7:47 is not fast anymore. While you are here bragging about Hunter running 7:42, some Ethiopian just ran 7:26.

That Ethiopian and Cole Hocker are both 4 years younger than Drew Hunter.

We should NOT be happy about Hunter's time because it's 3 seconds slower than his PR and every few months there are athletes younger than him that are running faster than him. He's moving BACKWARDS in the USA rankings.

barbelly wrote:

Tall Tree wrote:

Improvement, depth, and consistency.

Something is working better for these guys than before.

Good on them.

Mom is making them actually do what they learned from Schwartz. She's like Jo Frost for runners.

While I'm not particularly impressed by these results, we can all agree that Tinman was a bad coach. They are clearly doing better WITHOUT Tom Schwartz.

aztec the moronic wrote:

barbelly wrote:

Mom is making them actually do what they learned from Schwartz. She's like Jo Frost for runners.

While I'm not particularly impressed by these results, we can all agree that Tinman was a bad coach. They are clearly doing better WITHOUT Tom Schwartz.

Agree, I have no problem with the group and I hope they continue to prove Tinman wrong.

Dudes have plenty of talent, they trained like high schooler but somehow were always hurt.