Undergrad years ruined by covid and the hassles brought

Consider this. The number of doctoral degrees handed out in the USA in 1980 was just under 100 (per 1,000 people in the USA). That number is now at about 190 (per 1,000).

Academia has morphed into a legit racket. There is a place for academia in society for sure, but we are nearly double that now. Many of those doctoral degrees are worthless. The research is worthless. Smart people are wasting their time. Also, the value of a phd has been diluted. Less prestigious.

Hopefully the combination of the internet (infinite resources available to anyone anytime) along with the covid FUBAR situation will cull the herd in terms of traditional academic institutions. We need fewer traditional students, fewer PhDs and fewer schools. This will be a better allocation of our collective time and resources. Learning can be more efficient, targeted, less costly, higher quality, more relevant, etc.

phdstudent wrote:

As an aspiring PHD student, I am a bit upset that I hadn't gotten much research experience due to covid protocols, being online again next semester, and all of the stress the pandemic has created, in part due to schools being so strict about this stuff.

Will Schools consider this fiasco or am I done for?

Nobody trusts doctors here so you may want to find another forum.

coach wrote:

OPPPPPPO wrote:

Bingo!

Research is crucial for innovation and progress. We need more of it not less.

Totally agree 100%. I’m not suggesting eliminating research. Nobody is. I’m suggesting eliminating the useless research, of which there is a lot. Overflowing, actually. There are literally an infinite number of topics and ideas and things that could be researched in scholarly or scientific setting. Just because you can doesn’t mean you should. Most of the research being done is worthless busywork. Cutting it in half would be a good start.

crush it wrote:

Consider this. The number of doctoral degrees handed out in the USA in 1980 was just under 100 (per 1,000 people in the USA). That number is now at about 190 (per 1,000).

Academia has morphed into a legit racket. There is a place for academia in society for sure, but we are nearly double that now. Many of those doctoral degrees are worthless. The research is worthless. Smart people are wasting their time. Also, the value of a phd has been diluted. Less prestigious.

Hopefully the combination of the internet (infinite resources available to anyone anytime) along with the covid FUBAR situation will cull the herd in terms of traditional academic institutions. We need fewer traditional students, fewer PhDs and fewer schools. This will be a better allocation of our collective time and resources. Learning can be more efficient, targeted, less costly, higher quality, more relevant, etc.

Fewer and fewer PhDs are staying in academia. At least in the world of biotech, you need still need a PhD to really get somewhere these days. Now, if you want to argue against doing a postdoc...

That may be true, but then why has the total amount of doctoral degrees awarded per year per 1000 nearly doubled since the 80s?

OP look no further than the dozens of anti vax threads on letsrun and ask yourself. Do you really want to save these people? I mean seriously, look at yourself long and hard in the mirror. I posted a thread about trump supporting vaccines and it was removed within minutes while countless anti Covid/anti science threads have circulated here over the last two years. Ask yourself; is this worth it?

Rick Cheney wrote:

OP look no further than the dozens of anti vax threads on letsrun and ask yourself. Do you really want to save these people? I mean seriously, look at yourself long and hard in the mirror. I posted a thread about trump supporting vaccines and it was removed within minutes while countless anti Covid/anti science threads have circulated here over the last two years. Ask yourself; is this worth it?

Rick Cheney wrote:

Rick Cheney wrote:

OP look no further than the dozens of anti vax threads on letsrun and ask yourself. Do you really want to save these people? I mean seriously, look at yourself long and hard in the mirror. I posted a thread about trump supporting vaccines and it was removed within minutes while countless anti Covid/anti science threads have circulated here over the last two years. Ask yourself; is this worth it?

Consider the big picture. With the insane amount of resources poured into biotech (tied at the hip with academia) over the last 20 years (or so) how is it that our country is LESS healthy, not more healthy (by whatever metric you want to use)?

crush it wrote:

coach wrote:

Research is crucial for innovation and progress. We need more of it not less.

Totally agree 100%. I’m not suggesting eliminating research. Nobody is. I’m suggesting eliminating the useless research, of which there is a lot. Overflowing, actually. There are literally an infinite number of topics and ideas and things that could be researched in scholarly or scientific setting. Just because you can doesn’t mean you should. Most of the research being done is worthless busywork. Cutting it in half would be a good start.

Yeah, we should eliminate research that cranks on LRC deem useless in their vast understanding of all subject matter. Carmine9 would like to eliminate virus research so he can go to a bar and breathe on people.

everyone here is so smart wrote:

crush it wrote:

Totally agree 100%. I’m not suggesting eliminating research. Nobody is. I’m suggesting eliminating the useless research, of which there is a lot. Overflowing, actually. There are literally an infinite number of topics and ideas and things that could be researched in scholarly or scientific setting. Just because you can doesn’t mean you should. Most of the research being done is worthless busywork. Cutting it in half would be a good start.

Yeah, we should eliminate research that cranks on LRC deem useless in their vast understanding of all subject matter. Carmine9 would like to eliminate virus research so he can go to a bar and breathe on people.

Really? Why would I want that? What goes on in your head? Pretty scary? Don't buy into the Big Pharma propaganda fear and you want to end virus research and go to bars to breath on people?

Sick

everyone here is so smart wrote:

crush it wrote:

Totally agree 100%. I’m not suggesting eliminating research. Nobody is. I’m suggesting eliminating the useless research, of which there is a lot. Overflowing, actually. There are literally an infinite number of topics and ideas and things that could be researched in scholarly or scientific setting. Just because you can doesn’t mean you should. Most of the research being done is worthless busywork. Cutting it in half would be a good start.

Yeah, we should eliminate research that cranks on LRC deem useless in their vast understanding of all subject matter. Carmine9 would like to eliminate virus research so he can go to a bar and breathe on people.

Yes, because the “research” is so useful. Especially in the realm of human health. More research, yet lower life expectancy and worse health by any metric. That’s what the world needs: more drugs and more medical procedures. So smart.

You dropped your baton with all that hand waving. Better go pick it up.

crush it wrote:

everyone here is so smart wrote:

Yeah, we should eliminate research that cranks on LRC deem useless in their vast understanding of all subject matter. Carmine9 would like to eliminate virus research so he can go to a bar and breathe on people.

Yes, because the “research” is so useful. Especially in the realm of human health. More research, yet lower life expectancy and worse health by any metric. That’s what the world needs: more drugs and more medical procedures. So smart.

I’m glad you are so smart you can decide for the entire population of earth what is useful.

everyone here is so smart wrote:

crush it wrote:

Yes, because the “research” is so useful. Especially in the realm of human health. More research, yet lower life expectancy and worse health by any metric. That’s what the world needs: more drugs and more medical procedures. So smart.

I’m glad you are so smart you can decide for the entire population of earth what is useful.

Look, even someone with your level of intelligence can see what is obvious if you open your eyes.

everyone here is so smart wrote:

crush it wrote:

Yes, because the “research” is so useful. Especially in the realm of human health. More research, yet lower life expectancy and worse health by any metric. That’s what the world needs: more drugs and more medical procedures. So smart.

I’m glad you are so smart you can decide for the entire population of earth what is useful.

You think Big Pharma is the right entity to make those decisions?

crush it wrote:

Rick Cheney wrote:

OP look no further than the dozens of anti vax threads on letsrun and ask yourself. Do you really want to save these people? I mean seriously, look at yourself long and hard in the mirror. I posted a thread about trump supporting vaccines and it was removed within minutes while countless anti Covid/anti science threads have circulated here over the last two years. Ask yourself; is this worth it?

LOL, you’re gonna save me?

Behold, the mentally deranged lib living in his fantasy world.

And by the way, on cue, the first jackass to bring their reactionary politics into a non political discussion. What a hypocrite. Utter and completely hypocrite. But too dumb and brainwashed to see it.

Hey fvck face; I wasn’t talking to you.

Rick Cheney wrote:

crush it wrote:

LOL, you’re gonna save me?

Behold, the mentally deranged lib living in his fantasy world.

And by the way, on cue, the first jackass to bring their reactionary politics into a non political discussion. What a hypocrite. Utter and completely hypocrite. But too dumb and brainwashed to see it.

Hey fvck face; I wasn’t talking to you.

Hey fvck face; I voted conservative this last election. I also hunt and kill animals and gut them with my bare hands. Vaccines are good retard.