A Letsrun run poster with HR issues. Especially with women. Shocking
A Letsrun run poster with HR issues. Especially with women. Shocking
I don't know if it's worth the publicity to try and go forward with a lawsuit. And about trouble keeping a job, it's more that I've had trouble finding one that pays decently and didn't have insane managers or an extremely stressful work environment. I certainly can have some issues with authority, but in this job, I did everything and anything asked of me with no complaints, except sign a paper saying I wouldn't make such comments again, since I didn't make them in the first place. And I've worked here on and off for years with nothing but great feedback from my bosses.
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Nope, I have way crazier stories if this was just about bashing women. And men have all sorts of terrible things they do instead of lie.
Right, and having black friends means you're not racist.
mazeking wrote:
She made up a comment I didn't say or imply in any way, shape or form and since I wouldn't admit to it they fired me. No witnesses or cameras to back up her story. Then my boss made up some different reason for firing I assume to avoid a discrimination lawsuit. I'm pretty beat up over it and extremely depressed as I tried very hard at this job and it is just my latest blow in difficulties keeping a job.
Look, we don't know the full story here. However, I'm guessing this was just one of a couple strikes against you. Companies or employers just don't fire someone on the spot unless you've done something truly terrible and they probably had been building a case to fire you for quite some time.
I just know that you typically receive a warning or a performance improvement plan if you haven't been doing a good job in your role. My general rule of thumb is I'd quit if I ever received a "does not meet expectations" in my yearly review. Just start over somewhere else and reflect a bit on what went wrong.
I will also add that some people just suck to work with. I was put in a position at my former job where a few co-workers were allowed to provide feedback on me to my manager who was on the other side of the country. Why a 23-year old new hire would be providing feedback on a senior-level analyst is beyond me, but this 23-year old was volatile to work with and of course, she had negative things to say about me and others on my team. If you are ever in a position where your boss can't properly evaluate you and allows someone with little experience to determine your fate and bonus with a company, promptly leave.
Try to find places with good Glassdoor reviews from people in your role. Find people on LinkedIn who worked at that company and used to work for the company and see how long they've been there. Browse thelayoff.com to see what people are saying anonymously.
Some more tips:
1. Always take the high road and be the bigger person in your job when people challenge you.
2. Don't raise your voice, be positive at all times even if you have to fake it.
3. Don't talk crap about anyone at work or at the bar after work, no matter how much you really hate them. It WILL get back to that person.
4. Never take a job just because the pay is good. You will likely be quitting that job within two years anyways and accepting lower pay at a place you like more, putting you back to square one.
5. Never take a job where the motto is work hard/play hard.
Good luck!
Work Pig wrote:
4. Never take a job just because the pay is good. You will likely be quitting that job within two years anyways and accepting lower pay at a place you like more, putting you back to square one.
5. Never take a job where the motto is work hard/play hard.
What happens with #5? Yes to #4.
Sounds like the OP should have just signed the paper saying they won’t make those comments again. Then immediately go look for a new job. In my experience it’s easier to find a job when you are employed or voluntarily quit than when you are recently fired. Anyways, it’s likely you said something that was taken completely out of context. For instance, something like, “that’s a nice shirt” and the female coworker interpreted that to mean something incredibly vulgar and sexual. After all, as any married man can attest, women have a tendency to overreact and take things way out of context.
LetsIncel wrote:
More incel fan fiction, never thought I'd find that on here!
Your post ironically does not do a favor to women. By labeling any post that calls out the bad behavior of a woman/women as misogynistic or incel, you're implying that women are always victims and are beyond accountability. If a demographic desires respect, they have to earn it and constantly playing the victim card does not establish respect. How come when someone bashes a man or men, there's not a rush of posts calling them a misandrist? Again, accountability matters and a perpetual victim complex is toxic. Now go back to being a hysterical SJW looking for validation on social media. Those people do more harm than the good they think they're doing.
mazeking wrote:
She made up a comment I didn't say or imply in any way, shape or form and since I wouldn't admit to it they fired me. No witnesses or cameras to back up her story. Then my boss made up some different reason for firing I assume to avoid a discrimination lawsuit. I'm pretty beat up over it and extremely depressed as I tried very hard at this job and it is just my latest blow in difficulties keeping a job.
If you feel you were wrongfully terminated, my advice is to contact an attorney as to the best way to proceed.
picked wrote:
I once told a person to "calm down" while they were stressing out and being dramatic. Because this person was a female it became an HR issue. I couldnt believe it was an issue.
You can't be that stupid? It is always an issue to say "calm down" to anyone who is upset, regardless of gender. Just google this phrase if you need help. "calm down" means you aren't taking the situation seriously and you are going to piss them off more. A good employee resolves the situation, does not make things worse.
MatthewXCountry wrote:
picked wrote:
I once told a person to "calm down" while they were stressing out and being dramatic. Because this person was a female it became an HR issue. I couldnt believe it was an issue.
You can't be that stupid? It is always an issue to say "calm down" to anyone who is upset, regardless of gender. Just google this phrase if you need help. "calm down" means you aren't taking the situation seriously and you are going to piss them off more. A good employee resolves the situation, does not make things worse.
Yes a good employee works for their coworkers and not against them.
lose lose wrote:
I agree with lawyer up. I disagree that it’s almost for a sure a losing battle.
Nearly 1/3 people who file a wrongful termination lawsuit win with an average settlement of about $40k.
So it’s not a slam dunk, but it’s decent odds
Odds are about zero. Most of the cases with awards have evidence of wrong doing and patterns of behavior. Not delusions of a let's run poster....
Don't sign something that says you wont do something again, that is an admission of guilt you did something in the first place. Tell them to erase the word again and you can sign.
Flagpole wrote:
mazeking wrote:
She made up a comment I didn't say or imply in any way, shape or form and since I wouldn't admit to it they fired me. No witnesses or cameras to back up her story. Then my boss made up some different reason for firing I assume to avoid a discrimination lawsuit. I'm pretty beat up over it and extremely depressed as I tried very hard at this job and it is just my latest blow in difficulties keeping a job.
It's almost for sure a losing battle, because really, a company can get rid of people for almost any reason they wish. I've seen it many times. Company has a layoff and gets rid of undesirables. Company has a mini restructuring and gets rid of a specific job (person).
However, if you feel you were fired unjustly, lawyer up. Co-workers can't go making up lies about you. You'll probably lose any lawsuit, but who knows.
What he said. Lawyer - up. Do that, and the company will definitely take you serious. But, it will cost $$.
It won't hurt to question other employees (former) to see if she tried or did anything like this to them.
Work Pig wrote:
mazeking wrote:
She made up a comment I didn't say or imply in any way, shape or form and since I wouldn't admit to it they fired me. No witnesses or cameras to back up her story. Then my boss made up some different reason for firing I assume to avoid a discrimination lawsuit. I'm pretty beat up over it and extremely depressed as I tried very hard at this job and it is just my latest blow in difficulties keeping a job.
Look, we don't know the full story here. However, I'm guessing this was just one of a couple strikes against you. Companies or employers just don't fire someone on the spot unless you've done something truly terrible and they probably had been building a case to fire you for quite some time.
I just know that you typically receive a warning or a performance improvement plan if you haven't been doing a good job in your role. My general rule of thumb is I'd quit if I ever received a "does not meet expectations" in my yearly review. Just start over somewhere else and reflect a bit on what went wrong.
I will also add that some people just suck to work with. I was put in a position at my former job where a few co-workers were allowed to provide feedback on me to my manager who was on the other side of the country. Why a 23-year old new hire would be providing feedback on a senior-level analyst is beyond me, but this 23-year old was volatile to work with and of course, she had negative things to say about me and others on my team. If you are ever in a position where your boss can't properly evaluate you and allows someone with little experience to determine your fate and bonus with a company, promptly leave.
Try to find places with good Glassdoor reviews from people in your role. Find people on LinkedIn who worked at that company and used to work for the company and see how long they've been there. Browse thelayoff.com to see what people are saying anonymously.
Some more tips:
1. Always take the high road and be the bigger person in your job when people challenge you.
2. Don't raise your voice, be positive at all times even if you have to fake it.
3. Don't talk crap about anyone at work or at the bar after work, no matter how much you really hate them. It WILL get back to that person.
4. Never take a job just because the pay is good. You will likely be quitting that job within two years anyways and accepting lower pay at a place you like more, putting you back to square one.
5. Never take a job where the motto is work hard/play hard.
Good luck!
What's wrong with #5?
I chose one (Accidenture) on thelayoff.com and some of the comments are VERY ACCURATE.
Accidenture
Accident: a sudden event (such as a crash) that is not planned or intended and that causes damage or injury
Indenture: a formal certificate (such as an inventory or voucher) prepared for purposes of control
First of all try to find a new job and be very careful who you deal with next time.You also may benefit from talking to a mental health professional to deal with your depression and give you some direction.
Once you are settled in your new job,speak to an employment lawyer to see if you have any legal options to fight for. A similar thing happened to me and believe me you will feel much better if you can’t put some closure to this. What happened to you is not uncommon but you need to stand up for your rights. It will take some courage and there’s is no guarantee of success but you have to try. Good luck
This is LRC, it's the safest bet ever. I know this isn't your first day on here, so save the histrionics for someone who might be at least a little impressed.
This thread is too specific. We know women are to blame for everything.
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