Princeton 11 guys under 2:30 for a 1k

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  • not that special

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    2 years ago 11/21/2021 6:44pm EST
    re: babaganosh

    babaganosh wrote:

    not that special wrote:

    Fair enough. Can we at least agree that someone who can run, say, 1:54 or faster in the 800m should be able to run a 2:30 1K? Can we further agree that there are a lot of NCAA teams that have a dozen guys on their mid-d and distance squads who are capable of running 1:54 or faster for the 800m?

    2:30 is about a 1:55. Maybe a little faster if you're an 800 guy and maybe a little slower if you are a miler. IAAF scoring tables have 2:30.00 at 922 points, same as 1:55.65.

    You would expect most MD guys at a bigger D1 program to be able to run 1:55.

    I'd expect most 5K and 10K guys at a bigger D1 program to be able to run 1:55.

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    2 years ago 11/21/2021 8:22pm EST
    re: not that special

    not that special wrote:

    peterpan wrote:

    Princeton's incentivized to have a huge md squad since indoor heps has so many md events. 500m, 800m, 1000m, mile, DMR, 4x800m. 11 md guys on teams for most conferences doesnt make as much sense.

    You don't necessarily need 11 mid-d guys to have 11 guys who can basically run a 2 flat 800m with a little extra distance added on. Pretty typical for 5K and 10K guys on decent teams to have high school 800m PRs in the 1:50-1:54 range. Presumably those guys could step down in distance and run a 2:30 1K if they needed to.

    Is having 11 guys at or under 2:30 really something that, say, a mid-pack Big Ten team wouldn't be expected to be able to do?

    I hope you are incorrect. I hope most college D-1 T&F coaches are not giving up on high school athletes with 1:50.xx to 1:52.xx 800m P.B. and making them 5000m & 10000m men.

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  • NERunner03533

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    2 years ago 11/22/2021 6:47am EST
    re: vin recruited me in 1985

    Dk why the haters are out in full force. Guessing a lot of the 11 were coming off of cross & that most have either been training for cross or base building. Just shows that they have a lot of guys in the 1:50s for 800 & close to 4-flat in the mile. I feel like some are overestimating the Ivy League and/or entire NCAA system. Feel like some schools in power conferences have maybe a dozen guys like this. These performances aren't otherworldly but they don't need to be knocked. Shows that Princeton has some depth & will be plenty competitive in their conference. Solid early season effort.

    This reaction is why we don't always hear about stuff like this FWIW.

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    2 years ago 11/22/2021 8:04am EST
    re: Alexi Santana

    Lol I know, they make it look like the ran sub 2:20.

    Good luck with that winning titles.

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  • over done

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    2 years ago 11/23/2021 8:04am EST
    re: Maureen25

    Well, whatever they are doing, it didn't work at NCAA XC, they got blasted by Harvard after beating them easily a week earlier.

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    2 years ago 11/23/2021 10:15am EST
    re: over done

    Yeah I agree, some people think that D1 running is all teams like Oregon. Many D1 teams only have a few guys who can run sub 2:30.

    This impresses me because the top guys were quick, but also shows that the team is willing to invest time in 2:29 type guys. That's not going to win a conference meet, but it could score and will qualify for IC4As. Most importantly - some of those 2:28-2:30 guys could become 2:24-2:27 guys in a few years, which actually does move the needle in the Ivy League.

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