“15 days to flatten the curve” turned into “no jab no job”: What happens next?

Harambe wrote:

Rodger Bannister's mom's neighbour wrote:

This thing has killed millions!!! (mumbles in a hushed tone, ahem over 2 years, including non-related deaths and likely flu deaths).

Absolutely incorrect. Google "RT-PCR specificity" and "excess deaths"

Embarrassing BS from the deniers. They are just lying at this point -- it's all they have.

Stop with the "denier" BS. No one in this thread said 1) COVID doesn't exist -or- 2) That people haven't died from COVID.

The issues are 1) would we have been better off letting it runs its course? 2) The precedents that have now been set and WILL ABSOLUTELY BE USED NEFARIOUSLY in the future.

The majority have been cowed and propagandized against anyone that asks questions to the contrary. Between "pandemic", Black versus white, and gender issues, if anyone asks a question they are generally speaking "cancelled."

What better way to control your populace, than to have the majority do it for you!

Oh Please wrote:

Absolutely incorrect. Google "RT-PCR specificity" and "excess deaths"

Embarrassing BS from the deniers. They are just lying at this point -- it's all they have.

Stop with the "denier" BS. No one in this thread said 1) COVID doesn't exist -or- 2) That people haven't died from COVID.

The issues are 1) would we have been better off letting it runs its course? 2) The precedents that have now been set and WILL ABSOLUTELY BE USED NEFARIOUSLY in the future.

The majority have been cowed and propagandized against anyone that asks questions to the contrary. Between "pandemic", Black versus white, and gender issues, if anyone asks a question they are generally speaking "cancelled."

What better way to control your populace, than to have the majority do it for you![/quote]

I was specifically responding to someone who said that COVID deaths were substantially misdiagnosed or purposefully inflated and you immediately jump in to defend the dude. That's mainstream denier propaganda that you apparently sympathize with.

If you don't understand the gravity of 700k+ excess deaths in the USA you are either dumb, or a denier, or both.

Harambe wrote:

Oh Please wrote:

Absolutely incorrect. Google "RT-PCR specificity" and "excess deaths"

Embarrassing BS from the deniers. They are just lying at this point -- it's all they have.

Stop with the "denier" BS. No one in this thread said 1) COVID doesn't exist -or- 2) That people haven't died from COVID.

The issues are 1) would we have been better off letting it runs its course? 2) The precedents that have now been set and WILL ABSOLUTELY BE USED NEFARIOUSLY in the future.

The majority have been cowed and propagandized against anyone that asks questions to the contrary. Between "pandemic", Black versus white, and gender issues, if anyone asks a question they are generally speaking "cancelled."

What better way to control your populace, than to have the majority do it for you!

I was specifically responding to someone who said that COVID deaths were substantially misdiagnosed or purposefully inflated and you immediately jump in to defend the dude. That's mainstream denier propaganda that you apparently sympathize with.

If you don't understand the gravity of 700k+ excess deaths in the USA you are either dumb, or a denier, or both.[/quote]

A large swath of the US population today is incapable of empathy. As long as it isn't them suffering or being impacted, the motto is "f#ck you I got mine". Sad!

troll_69 wrote:

A large swath of the US population today is incapable of empathy. As long as it isn't them suffering or being impacted, the motto is "f#ck you I got mine". Sad!

What a hypocrite you are, Harambe.

You are the one incapable of empathy. As long as it's an unvaccinated person suffering and dying, your motto is "f#ck you I got mine". Sad!

Well, if everybody would have gotten his shoot in the first 2 weeks, people wouldn't loose their jobs now.

15 days to flatten the curve, who said it?

Donald MF Trump 💉

trhse wrote:

troll_69 wrote:

A large swath of the US population today is incapable of empathy. As long as it isn't them suffering or being impacted, the motto is "f#ck you I got mine". Sad!

What a hypocrite you are, Harambe.

You are the one incapable of empathy. As long as it's an unvaccinated person suffering and dying, your motto is "f#ck you I got mine". Sad!

This is very wrong! I've been pushing back against antivaxx and denier propaganda for months, knowing that innocent people will get sucked into the deadly denier-fearmonger vortex, make terrible choices, and endanger themselves and their loved ones.

I've been doing my best to discredit all the psychopaths on here intent on convincing more and more Americans to refuse to the vaccine, prolonging the pandemic, and causing 100k's of deaths.

Harambe wrote:

trhse wrote:

What a hypocrite you are, Harambe.

You are the one incapable of empathy. As long as it's an unvaccinated person suffering and dying, your motto is "f#ck you I got mine". Sad!

This is very wrong! I've been pushing back against antivaxx and denier propaganda for months, knowing that innocent people will get sucked into the deadly denier-fearmonger vortex, make terrible choices, and endanger themselves and their loved ones.

I've been doing my best to discredit all the psychopaths on here intent on convincing more and more Americans to refuse to the vaccine, prolonging the pandemic, and causing 100k's of deaths.

Except that it is not clear that people not getting covid vaccinations has prolonged the pandemic, given what studies are showing about the limits of covid vaccines.

monkeypatch wrote:

Harambe wrote:

This is very wrong! I've been pushing back against antivaxx and denier propaganda for months, knowing that innocent people will get sucked into the deadly denier-fearmonger vortex, make terrible choices, and endanger themselves and their loved ones.

I've been doing my best to discredit all the psychopaths on here intent on convincing more and more Americans to refuse to the vaccine, prolonging the pandemic, and causing 100k's of deaths.

Except that it is not clear that people not getting covid vaccinations has prolonged the pandemic, given what studies are showing about the limits of covid vaccines.

Totally wrong. The hospitals in the US are full of unvaxxed nearly exclusively, as are tallies of recent deaths.

Imagine if we were seeing 85%-95% less hospitalizations and deaths per COVID case right now? COVID would be seen as far, far more minor a threat. That's what it would be like with full vaccination.

Main stream media (fox in this case) once again proves it dominance over the exploitable.

Reeducation Camps will be opned soon for anyone who does not Take the third jab. There you will be kept save and learn how to show soladarity

Harambe wrote:

monkeypatch wrote:

Except that it is not clear that people not getting covid vaccinations has prolonged the pandemic, given what studies are showing about the limits of covid vaccines.

Totally wrong. The hospitals in the US are full of unvaxxed nearly exclusively, as are tallies of recent deaths.

Imagine if we were seeing 85%-95% less hospitalizations and deaths per COVID case right now? COVID would be seen as far, far more minor a threat. That's what it would be like with full vaccination.

While i am sure vaccination would help stave off hospitilization for most, i dont think anything at this point can be done to convince anyone unvaccinated to get vaccinated. So i think the virus will likely just run its course and people will just get infected and either get sick or wont. The important thing is the most vulnerable populations are already well protected. As i am sure you are aware 95% of all covid deaths are in people over the age of 60. And these age groups are vaccinated at the highest rates.

I am not really sure what else can be done. There is talk about vaccines for kids, but it doesnt appear like they make up almost any of the deaths or hospitalizations, so i would suspect that vaccination for them will statistically do nothing, and long term the vaccine will likely not be recommended until college.

While i understand that many have died from the illness, a great number happened before we had adequate protection for the elderly. Now that we do, i dont see any path forward except to continue to suggest vaccines are in your best interest and to allow people to go back to their lives. This has already happened in most of the country by the way. Go drive 10 minutes outside any major city, and you will find no mask requirements and life is relatively normal. At least it is here in my relatively purple state.

I buckled to threats unless I was double vaxxed. Now what? Will I be threatened again soon if not triple vaxxed? This is a racket now. This is not about science, this is Big Pharma making money from U.S. government in regard to vaxxing us every six months.

Cool story bro.

You are correct that there is nothing we can do to prevent an unvaccinated person from refusing the vaccine and then dying of COVID.

Also yes, Delta is so contagious that it is going to infect anyone susceptible sooner rather than later.

Even in big liberal cities cases are dropping now that most places don't have anything beyond a mask mandate and a vaccine mandate for indoor stuff.

Mask mandate is low-cost so makes sense until cases are very low

Vaccine mandate is really just a way to coerce people to get the vax

Beyond that, things are normal everywhere. Most people have moved on.

It's just sad that we are going to throw away another 100k+ American lives due to antivaxx propaganda.

covid x 2 & double vaxxed wrote:

I buckled to threats unless I was double vaxxed. Now what? Will I be threatened again soon if not triple vaxxed? This is a racket now. This is not about science, this is Big Pharma making money from U.S. government in regard to vaxxing us every six months.

If you had COVID twice you probably have a crap immune system and thus should be in favor of immunity mandates. You're welcome for this free advice.

You’re all paranoid and crazy. Nothing happens next. Eventually enough will get vaccinated and the deaths and cases will drop back to May-June levels. Booster shots will always be available just like the flu shot is available every year.

Harambe wrote:

covid x 2 & double vaxxed wrote:

I buckled to threats unless I was double vaxxed. Now what? Will I be threatened again soon if not triple vaxxed? This is a racket now. This is not about science, this is Big Pharma making money from U.S. government in regard to vaxxing us every six months.

If you had COVID twice you probably have a crap immune system and thus should be in favor of immunity mandates. You're welcome for this free advice.

Having covid x 2 does not mean I like I having all my civil liberties squashed. I had freedom of choice. I had the freedom of choosing to take experimental vaccine or the freedom to live in a cardboard box under viaduct. No. You cannot say I have a poor immune system. Possibly random poor luck. Some get exposed to high amounts of covid and some do not. Eg. If someone covid-19 positive sneezed in my face indoors that is a high viral exposure. If you walked through same area 1/2 an hour latter and get a lower viral exposure and do not test covid-19 positive, that does not mean you have a stronger immune system. Why I am arguing science with you? You are no scientist.

Do like you have been told to do as a Commando Warrior for your ROTC Green Beret Unit, Military Boarding School SEALS Company, etc.