SDSU Aztec wrote:
6) Is it lax shoplifting laws that are causing the problems in S.F.?
How stupid can you be? They are NOT prosecuting shoplifting in SF.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
6) Is it lax shoplifting laws that are causing the problems in S.F.?
How stupid can you be? They are NOT prosecuting shoplifting in SF.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
So, because I'm a Democrat, I have to be for ANY policy in any liberal city ever in existence? Nope. Doesn't work that way. I am ALWAYS prudent with my positions. I just generally believe liberal policies (ESPECIALLY since that moron Trump and his idiot followers came about) are better.
1) I am a fiscal conservative.
2) I am NOT for cancel culture as I believe in forgiveness for people who are truly sorry (and I do believe people can be sorry for things they have done and that it's just not sorry they were caught).
3) I don't buy into the fact that we have to believe women about everything. Nope. Sorry. They are people too, and like ALL people (except for me), they do lie sometimes.
4) I do not support Mary Cain in her lawsuit.
5) I am PRO police and not for defunding police at all.
6) I am not for lax shoplifting laws.
7) I am PRO business (one of the reasons I believe companies have the right to require their employees to get vaccinated against ANY killer virus).
So, your attempt to paint me with a broad brush doesn't here, brother.
2) You might want to put "some" in front of "people".
3) Straw man. A few shrill people saying that doesn't mean that many liberals believe it.
4) You weren't there at OP and don't know what evidence will be presented during the trial. Do you support Salazar?
5) Another straw man. There have been some reallocation of funds but not a decrease in officers.
6) Is it lax shoplifting laws that are causing the problems in S.F.?
1) Regarding your #2, NOPE. I already said "can" where I wanted to, and the rest of it was also worded as intended and is correct.
2) Regarding your #3, NOPE. Not a strawman. LOTS of CONSERVATIVES believe ALL liberals feel that way.
3) I agree that I was not there with regard to Mary Cain and Salazar and that there could be evidence presented in a trial (if there is one) that could change my mind (I have already said as much). As far as what she has said publicly so far, I do not believe any of that rises to the level of a $20 million lawsuit.
4) Regarding your #5, NOPE, not a strawman. Again, LOTS OF CONSERVATIVES believe that all liberals want to defund the police and that that means they want them to go away.
5) Regarding lax shoplifting laws, I never said they were causing the problems in SF. The person I was responding to was insinuating so and then saying I would be for such a thing.
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ace degenerate wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
I read that the problem is a shortfall of policeman. Some are retiring and others have moved away. Are there funds available to hire enough new officers to stem the problem? With the cost of living in the Bay Area, new officers don't come cheap.
How would you geniuses on the right, deal with the issue?
Oh, I don't know, enforcing the law always helps. Prosecuting offenses like shop lifting and drug possession with actual consequences like jail time. Liberals don't like that though. They'd rather concoct excuses as to why the problems their policies create can't be solved.
Why are you assuming that offenses are not prosecuted in SF? Do you have evidence? Looking at crime stats for various cities in 2020 it does appear that SF has the 2nd highest larceny rate to Spokane (is that a liberal city - I really don't know?).
When it comes to burglary, SF is well down on the list and Albuquerque seems to be the worst place for property crimes in general. When it comes to violent crimes there are a lot of cities a lot worse than SF, including Baltimore.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rateSDSU Aztec wrote:
Hardloper wrote:
Imagine asking this
I read that the problem is a shortfall of policeman. Some are retiring and others have moved away. Are there funds available to hire enough new officers to stem the problem? With the cost of living in the Bay Area, new officers don't come cheap.
How would you geniuses on the right, deal with the issue?
I would put armed guards in force at those Walgreens with instructions to take down the thugs perpetrating these crimes.
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some actual data wrote:
ace degenerate wrote:
Oh, I don't know, enforcing the law always helps. Prosecuting offenses like shop lifting and drug possession with actual consequences like jail time. Liberals don't like that though. They'd rather concoct excuses as to why the problems their policies create can't be solved.
Why are you assuming that offenses are not prosecuted in SF? Do you have evidence? Looking at crime stats for various cities in 2020 it does appear that SF has the 2nd highest larceny rate to Spokane (is that a liberal city - I really don't know?).
When it comes to burglary, SF is well down on the list and Albuquerque seems to be the worst place for property crimes in general. When it comes to violent crimes there are a lot of cities a lot worse than SF, including Baltimore.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate
Flagpole wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
2) You might want to put "some" in front of "people".
3) Straw man. A few shrill people saying that doesn't mean that many liberals believe it.
4) You weren't there at OP and don't know what evidence will be presented during the trial. Do you support Salazar?
5) Another straw man. There have been some reallocation of funds but not a decrease in officers.
6) Is it lax shoplifting laws that are causing the problems in S.F.?
1) Regarding your #2, NOPE. I already said "can" where I wanted to, and the rest of it was also worded as intended and is correct.
2) Regarding your #3, NOPE. Not a strawman. LOTS of CONSERVATIVES believe ALL liberals feel that way.
3) I agree that I was not there with regard to Mary Cain and Salazar and that there could be evidence presented in a trial (if there is one) that could change my mind (I have already said as much). As far as what she has said publicly so far, I do not believe any of that rises to the level of a $20 million lawsuit.
4) Regarding your #5, NOPE, not a strawman. Again, LOTS OF CONSERVATIVES believe that all liberals want to defund the police and that that means they want them to go away.
5) Regarding lax shoplifting laws, I never said they were causing the problems in SF. The person I was responding to was insinuating so and then saying I would be for such a thing.
Flagpole, this anti Trumper agrees with everything you wrote.
An amazing article wrote:
An amazing article in the tabloid NY Post 😂
Rojo at his very best.
This was widely covered across many major news sources a few months back. Or are you targeting the NY Post so that you don't have to address facts that you don't like?
Good I hope nothing goes in there and causes major inconvenience for everyone who voted D.
Cali has by far the best economy in the US and its crime rate is lower than almost all the red states. Stop making this about politics.....
gabby jones wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
I read that the problem is a shortfall of policeman. Some are retiring and others have moved away. Are there funds available to hire enough new officers to stem the problem? With the cost of living in the Bay Area, new officers don't come cheap.
How would you geniuses on the right, deal with the issue?
I would put armed guards in force at those Walgreens with instructions to take down the thugs perpetrating these crimes.
Right, and the store would be liable for any shootings. You can't always just do what you want.
Go away wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
6) Is it lax shoplifting laws that are causing the problems in S.F.?
How stupid can you be? They are NOT prosecuting shoplifting in SF.
Again, to prosecute shoplifters, they need to be arrested and for that to happen, more police officers are needed.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
dying on the outside wrote:
They got fined 4.5 million dollars for wage theft in CA a few years ago, heard crickets on that. The media blitz about closing stores for theft reasons is effectively a public relations campaign by Walgreens to get taxpayer-funded cops to sit outside their stores instead of paying for security guards.
Very similar to the "foreign cyber-attacks on private US businesses must be dealt with by the US Military" push a while ago when that pipeline got hacked. They want you and me to pay for their cyber-security.
The problem is security guards are paid, more or less, to be there and not to takeover a policeman's role in apprehending a potentially violent criminal.
IDK what to tell you man. The article is about shoplifting, not "potentially violent criminals". If they want to prevent shoplifting, they should hire security guards. But that would eat into their profits, so they're trying this instead.
Walgreens consolidates its stores (most likely to save on overhead and real estate) and pretends it can't afford to stay open because of shoplifters. You fall for it. Now I'm having this stupid conversation with a rube who couldn't stay on topic in a one-sentence response.
Cool, now that real estate can be used by the Small Business that conservatives pretend to champion.
dying on the outside wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
The problem is security guards are paid, more or less, to be there and not to takeover a policeman's role in apprehending a potentially violent criminal.
IDK what to tell you man. The article is about shoplifting, not "potentially violent criminals". If they want to prevent shoplifting, they should hire security guards. But that would eat into their profits, so they're trying this instead.
Walgreens consolidates its stores (most likely to save on overhead and real estate) and pretends it can't afford to stay open because of shoplifters. You fall for it. Now I'm having this stupid conversation with a rube who couldn't stay on topic in a one-sentence response.
The OP blames S.F. liberals for the massive shoplifting but you're blaming the store owners. The wave of shoplifting is backed by organized crime and it's not just a bunch of teenagers. If it's organized crime, you don't believe some these people might be violent? There are limitations to what a security guard can do. If they injure someone, the store could be liable, if it happens often they won't be able to obtain insurance and not all security guards are Rambo and sone will want to avoid physical confrontations.
I think your 1st paragraph is idiotic but I don't call you a rube. Grow up and understand that people have different perspectives and you insulting me only makes me think you're an a**hole.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Go away wrote:
How stupid can you be? They are NOT prosecuting shoplifting in SF.
Again, to prosecute shoplifters, they need to be arrested and for that to happen, more police officers are needed.
Read "not my real name"'s post on page 1. SF has made a conscious, intentional choice not to prosecute shoplifting even when they have the resources.
Flagpole wrote:
ALL people (except for me), they do lie sometimes.
What an insufferable turd this guy is...
cheesa wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Again, to prosecute shoplifters, they need to be arrested and for that to happen, more police officers are needed.
Read "not my real name"'s post on page 1. SF has made a conscious, intentional choice not to prosecute shoplifting even when they have the resources.
There are other articles where a lack of police officers is cited. A huge, unique wave of shoplifters have hit S.F. Does S.F. have the resources to prosecute these people for felonies or space to incarcerat them?
3, 2, 1 ….. Walgreens is racist! People who go to Walgreens have white privilege. Blah, Blah, Blah. CA gets what it deserves it’s a liberal hole.
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