Leo Young 13:31 at Woodbridge

i am the mushroom man wrote:

high school xc coach wrote:

well, with the way Jakob and several young africans run, maybe people will finally stop saying that kids like this are doing too much too soon?

A job well done. Congrats to Leo and the team.

I think this is the first group of kids to be doing in right in the US in a very long time, maybe ever.

I hope you are a troll either that or 12 years old

CoachB wrote:

sconehead wrote:

What he means is it’s “a bit short”.

NO.....The course was changed from last year. In the last mile, the course used to cut straight through the "backyard" at Silver Lakes Sports Park. This year it detoured around it. All of my kids had 3.05 or 3.06 on their GPS. I would estimate that the course was 15-20 seconds slower (at least on Friday) than 2019.

On Friday, 7 of the 8 winning team times were slower than 2019 with an average difference of +77 seconds, or about 15.4 seconds per runner.

I don't know if they changed it back for Saturday or not.

GPS is ALWAYS long tight circumferences

Thats ABSURD... 15-20 sec SLOW... lol So why winner basically should have run 13:12? so like 13:45... 5K on grass.

I have no idea of the length of the course, but I know from the video Leo was absolutely flying the last 400. The way he gapped the other 3 who were (obviously) going pretty fast themselves was pretty impressive.

Their #5 didn’t run the sweepstakes yesterday. But he has run 8:56 for 3200 as a junior.

Jerry Maguire wrote:

CoachB wrote:

NO.....The course was changed from last year. In the last mile, the course used to cut straight through the "backyard" at Silver Lakes Sports Park. This year it detoured around it. All of my kids had 3.05 or 3.06 on their GPS. I would estimate that the course was 15-20 seconds slower (at least on Friday) than 2019.

On Friday, 7 of the 8 winning team times were slower than 2019 with an average difference of +77 seconds, or about 15.4 seconds per runner.

I don't know if they changed it back for Saturday or not.

GPS is ALWAYS long tight circumferences

Thats ABSURD... 15-20 sec SLOW... lol So why winner basically should have run 13:12? so like 13:45... 5K on grass.

I mean using the GPS watch to get precise to the 1/1000th decimal point measurements? lol

Post-race interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKmHHWDoU9c

Newbury Park? wrote:

Their #5 is a liability.

Their #5 could be one of any 3 dudes depending on the day, and at NXN that #5 is probably still going to be top 80. Insane.

With Leo's gigantic Woodbridge leap from 14:58 to 13:38 (where 8:56 followed), is it out of the realm of possibility that NP might have 3 kids sub-8:40 next spring?

Brosnan. James Brosnan wrote:

With Leo's gigantic Woodbridge leap from 14:58 to 13:38 (where 8:56 followed), is it out of the realm of possibility that NP might have 3 kids sub-8:40 next spring?

3? Maybe 4. Last Fall the younger Sahlman was 30-40 seconds behind the others in XC. He was right behind Lex in a mile in June, and now right with him in 3 mile XC.

Great interview

https://ca.milesplit.com/videos/504411/leo-young-breaks-brothers-record-with-1338

Wise Old Man wrote:

notthTfast wrote:

Their 5th did beat the the first runner for great oak (2nd place team)

The usual “5th runner” Dan Appleford was not in this race as he is recovering from an illness. He’s a sub 9 3200 runner, so I think they are going to “ok” at #5! Yes, two sets of brothers, but undoubtedly this will be the greatest prep xc team in US history. The Young brothers, including Nico, are the greatest sibling trio in prep history. It’s pretty obvious.

The Mcchesney's had 4 pretty good brothers, Kenny was the slowest and I think he ran the equivalent of a 9:12 2 mi in HS, this was also before the super shoes and the paced time trials etc. Billy obviously was the best, still holds the Oregon 5k record from 1980.

Jesuit had brothers Eric and Mark Mastalir and brothers Paul and Jim Thomas in their top-5 along with Mike Parrot. Three of them ran under 4:10 and also under 9:00. To me, that was the standard-bearing school of the ages.

Was.

The course is only 2.72 miles so he was just a tad over 5:00 per mile.

I ran in the rated race. My coach told me the course is 3.03, my gps measured it at 3.04 so I do believe him.

not that fasst wrote:

coachy wrote:

Your kids need to find the tangents. That's not what I have seen on GPS last night.

GPS always measure long. So the course was like 2.86 miles. Was this a middle school race?

If there are trees and turns, like most cross country courses, GPS usually measures quite short. The GPS cuts off the turn, measuring a straight line instead of a round turn.

Lars Sqweebles wrote:

not that fasst wrote:

GPS always measure long. So the course was like 2.86 miles. Was this a middle school race?

If there are trees and turns, like most cross country courses, GPS usually measures quite short. The GPS cuts off the turn, measuring a straight line instead of a round turn.

Today's GPS units usually over correct. This course is definitely about a minute to minute thirty short.

Forget about course length, Nico Young ran 13:39 here and dominated at NXN

His brother beat that by a second with several teammates coming in hot behind him

This is an extremely good performance, for 2.95 miles or 3.05 miles

cramister wrote:

Forget about course length, Nico Young ran 13:39 here and dominated at NXN

His brother beat that by a second with several teammates coming in hot behind him

This is an extremely good performance, for 2.95 miles or 3.05 miles

Very good point, the relativity and context here are what's most important. XC times are a tricky thing

cramister wrote:

Forget about course length, Nico Young ran 13:39 here and dominated at NXN

His brother beat that by a second with several teammates coming in hot behind him

This is an extremely good performance, for 2.95 miles or 3.05 miles

Is it the exact same course Nico ran? I know that Woodbridge has changed courses in the past.