Was the polio vaccine has polarizing as the covid vaccines?

question for the boomers wrote:

I'm a young guy born in the 90s. I remember getting some vaccines as a kid to be able to go to school, or something like that. When the polio vaccine came out, were people worried about it to the same degree as the covid vaccines? What made the rollout of the polio vaccine such a success? What has made this one different?

Trolls welcome to chime in too.

There was a time on earth where people trusted science and had rational thoughts about it. All vaccination programs where huge successes. Actually too big of success, as it turns out, "educated" parents started to think that some vaccinations caused some other diseases.

Now, every crackpot has his own news outlet (social media) and can reach the whole planet within hours. 30 years ago that was not even possible for most big news outlets.

ate the cube, didn't die wrote:

sbeefyk2 wrote:

Actually, polio only killed 3,500 people a year (at its peak) and averaged 15,000 cases per year prior to the vaccine. Yes, polio paralyzes almost half the people it infects, but covid killed 650k in 1.5 years. That 1.5 years is exponentially more than the history of all polio deaths combined.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/reported-paralytic-polio-cases-and-deaths-in-the-united-states-since-1910

Covid mostly killed old, very sick people. No need to keep going full Harambe wid da stats.

I don't know if I have had Covid19 OG variant or Delta Variant or whatever? Don't worry too much neither.

All the stats I post are correct. Nearly all are in the proper context if I can provide it :)

Anyway polio actually has a severe case rate (<1 %) fairly similar to COVID (probably less)

"Two phases of acute poliomyelitis can be distinguished: a nonspecific febrile illness (minor illness) followed, in a small proportion of patients, by aseptic meningitis and/or paralytic disease (major illness). The ratio of cases of inapparent infection to paralytic disease among susceptible individuals ranges from 100:1 to 1000:1 or more."

Most people are asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic with polio.

If there were attempts at mass polio vaccination today, plenty of these same morons would cower and cry about the low risk of polio, the untested vaccine, and all sorts of deflectionary BS.

Growbatina wrote:

POKE IT POKE POKE wrote:

polio f&cks you up big time

covid gives you the sniffles

Oh, looks like we have one from the shallow end of the gene pool. COVID doesn't give you the sniffles. COVID kills people and maims people. You are very dumb.

Stop spreading fear.

For 99% of people covid will make them sick for a few days and then they’ll be fine. There are exceptions where Covid could kill you but these are in fact the exceptions. The cold & the flu could also kill you but chances are it won’t.

How many Americans has the polio vaccine killed?

energeticlotuseater wrote:

There are exceptions where Covid could kill you but these are in fact the exceptions. The cold & the flu could also kill you but chances are it won’t.

Yes, over 650,000 such exceptions in the United States alone.

question for the boomers wrote:

I'm a young guy born in the 90s. I remember getting some vaccines as a kid to be able to go to school, or something like that. When the polio vaccine came out, were people worried about it to the same degree as the covid vaccines? What made the rollout of the polio vaccine such a success? What has made this one different?

Trolls welcome to chime in too.

God this thread is hilarious. I only got through the first page but multiple posts slamming the Anti-Vaxxers. Anyone who has a basic knowledge of history, or can use google, knows that the polio vaccine rollout was an epic disaster in which the vaccine was defective leaving tens of thousands of kids with polio. Including 100's who were paralyzed and several who died. The process had to be stopped due to the defective vaccine until another manufacture could make it properly.

You honestly can not make up the level of ignorance in the Covid hysteria camp. We now have the polio vaccine disaster being used as a cudgel to beat those who don't want the Covid vaccine because nothing bad has ever happened when the white lab coats told you to get a prick.

How big was the Polio vaccine Ph3 trial? What were the endpoints? Adverse event rates?

You see where I’m going :)

Honestly, I'd rather die than be paralyzed for the rest of my life.

I didn't get the polio vax, and am not getting the covid vax.

In the case of the covid vax, I'm not getting a shady shot just because you stuff your face with crap food.

Obesity is the real pandemic.

Growbatina wrote:

POKE IT POKE POKE wrote:

polio f&cks you up big time

covid gives you the sniffles

Oh, looks like we have one from the shallow end of the gene pool. COVID doesn't give you the sniffles. COVID kills people and maims people. You are very dumb.

I should qualify my statement for the uneducated.

If you are a nursing home resident then you should be very careful about covid and about 1000 other things that can end your life. Also, if you have been negligently irresponsible about taking care of your body over your lifetime then you are likely going to die prematurely. Likely from some form of diabetes, cardiovascular disease or perhaps covid. It’s a long list.

Not really. The polio vaccine issue had nothing to do with trials and was a manufacturing error. I was merely pointing out the irony of using a disastrous vaccine rollout as a jumping-off point to tell people they should get the Covid vaccine. Where did you think you were going?

OP, you can't use the word b*omer on this site. The word has negative connotations and therefore it breaks Rule 6 -> Hateful conduct -> "Posts that threaten, or harass other people on the basis of .. age".

Sincerely,

a deeply regretful former rule breaker.

BoomerBob wrote:

question for the boomers wrote:

I'm a young guy born in the 90s. I remember getting some vaccines as a kid to be able to go to school, or something like that. When the polio vaccine came out, were people worried about it to the same degree as the covid vaccines? What made the rollout of the polio vaccine such a success? What has made this one different?

Trolls welcome to chime in too.

There was a time on earth where people trusted science and had rational thoughts about it. All vaccination programs where huge successes. Actually too big of success, as it turns out, "educated" parents started to think that some vaccinations caused some other diseases.

Now, every crackpot has his own news outlet (social media) and can reach the whole planet within hours. 30 years ago that was not even possible for most big news outlets.

Gosh darn those people thinking for themselves and questioning fear mongering.

I only vaguely recall the events around the Polio vaccine. Our President was very persuasive on the subject of Polio (for reasons that are obvious and we listened to him on the radio intently. There wasn't any of the massive reporting, national debates and discussion or confusing chaos of opinions 24/7.

My best friend 8 yr old Bobby was a demon on crutches so we had his evidence to prompt us!)

Anyway, to the best of my recollection there was no pushback, whining or obstinance. You had a vaccine that was in that time like miracle and my folks were just very willing to use it. My old man liked the odds he said. Any gambler would.

energeticlotuseater wrote:

Growbatina wrote:

Oh, looks like we have one from the shallow end of the gene pool. COVID doesn't give you the sniffles. COVID kills people and maims people. You are very dumb.

Stop spreading fear.

For 99% of people covid will make them sick for a few days and then they’ll be fine. There are exceptions where Covid could kill you but these are in fact the exceptions. The cold & the flu could also kill you but chances are it won’t.

Who is "spreading" what?!

You're doing some spreading but it's more deadly and it stinks.

Did Polio become more contagious but less virulent like Covid?

Humans are the only reservoir for Polio. Therefore it is possible to eradicate. Humans are not the only reservoir for Covid, therefore it is impossible to eradicate and we must learn to live with it like we did with the flu.

For some reason several people still don't understand this simple principle and it is leading to insane policies.

Well, ok then! wrote:

energeticlotuseater wrote:

There are exceptions where Covid could kill you but these are in fact the exceptions. The cold & the flu could also kill you but chances are it won’t.

Yes, over 650,000 such exceptions in the United States alone.

Ok, let’s do the math

650,000 / 333,000,000 = .00195

Duh!