Getting a date is extremely tough, and getting a long-term relationship is pretty much impossible

No. Just no.

Long term relationships aren't a competition to find the richest/fastest/strongest.

Matching is optimised over several variables - some might even say values. Presumably you like running and are fit. Some women value exercise and physical fitness. Doesn't mean they would prefer a 3:50 miler over a 4:20 miler over a tennis player - they just want someone fit and healthy.

Money - sure some women want more, more, more. Some just want a partner who provides stability and is able to provide. Some are happy to be equal earners, some are happy to be the main breadwinner with husband at home looking after the kids.

Kids? 1 or 2, none, 6?

Religion?

Travel?

Education?

Personality?

There are lots of things that go into a relationship, whether it lasts one night or a lifetime. It's not a case of X has more of whatever than me so gets the girl. The important thing is whether or not you're a close enough match across a lot of things to be willing to take a chance on each other and to work hard to make it a success, to get to know and trust each other.

I agree with posters who say get off the internet and go live your life. Your thought experiment is just that: a thought. There are no living, breathing, flesh and blood women in a thought. Go out and meet some of those women you've convinced yourself you can't have. Most of them won't be a match. But some of those will be interesting and fun people to meet anyway - your life will be richer for meeting them, even if you don't date them. Some *will* be a match. Work hard at making the matches turn into something great.

Half of American adults are married. A lot more are living in long-term relationships. It's definitely not impossible.

It is, however very hard to find someone you're compatible with that you're attracted to and want to spend the rest of your life with(who feels the same way about you). It's much easier to settle for someone, which tons of people do.

I lucked out with some near-misses. Struck gold after lots of searching. 11 years and couldn't be happier.

runnER/DR wrote:

Half of American adults are married. A lot more are living in long-term relationships. It's definitely not impossible.

It is, however very hard to find someone you're compatible with that you're attracted to and want to spend the rest of your life with(who feels the same way about you). It's much easier to settle for someone, which tons of people do.

I lucked out with some near-misses. Struck gold after lots of searching. 11 years and couldn't be happier.

But if half of all adults are married, that means that only a quarter of adult males are married.

The OP is trolling of course but in reality the picture is indeed pretty grim.

https://boingboing.net/2021/03/22/adult-male-virginity-soars.html

Just go on tinder and message someone that matches with you - it two steps, takes like an hour tops to get get matches and a response. You could meet someone tonight. We are living in easy mode right now

half of half wrote:

But if half of all adults are married, that means that only a quarter of adult males are married.[/quote]

0.5*(x+y) = 0.5x + 0.5y

CopperRunner wrote:

I mean this very kindly, but I need to be blunt.

Go touch some grass.

90% if not more of the people you ask out will say yes. Who doesn’t want free food and company? Hook them on the idea of free food and a good time, and make them stay with your personality and sense of humor

While I don’t think the op is correct, I know for sure you are not. 90%? That number is way too high.

Maybe you are just trying to make a point to OP but 90% is just ridiculous.

Luis Carruthers wrote:

M. Halberstram wrote:

You should have gone to Dorsia.

Can anyone tell me what font was used on this post?

Looks like romalian to me.

Nah you tweakin

Some of us are able to converse with others and accept their differences and don’t have any of these autistic hangups about women and relationships that many of the cretins on this board seem to dwell on.

Film Rep wrote:

If gettin a date was easy, this website would have zero traffic bro. 😩

Too bad Greg isn't interested in you.

harsh truth wrote:

Today's exercise...

Another troll with an unregistered name creates a thread and never posts in the thread under that name again. But post they do. The OP is still posting, just under other names--registered and not registered.

Yawn^9 wrote:

CopperRunner wrote:

I mean this very kindly, but I need to be blunt.

Go touch some grass.

90% if not more of the people you ask out will say yes. Who doesn’t want free food and company? Hook them on the idea of free food and a good time, and make them stay with your personality and sense of humor

While I don’t think the op is correct, I know for sure you are not. 90%? That number is way too high.

Maybe you are just trying to make a point to OP but 90% is just ridiculous.

Nope. If you can show you have a good personality and make for good company, and then have enough confidence you’ll score a date 90%+ of the time. The age old sentiment “if you make them laugh hard enough, they’ll close their eyes” definitely applies. Acting like women only care about social status and height is an incel mindset and is ironically a huge reason why incels can’t get dates.

CopperRunner wrote:

Yawn^9 wrote:

While I don’t think the op is correct, I know for sure you are not. 90%? That number is way too high.

Maybe you are just trying to make a point to OP but 90% is just ridiculous.

Nope. If you can show you have a good personality and make for good company, and then have enough confidence you’ll score a date 90%+ of the time. The age old sentiment “if you make them laugh hard enough, they’ll close their eyes” definitely applies. Acting like women only care about social status and height is an incel mindset and is ironically a huge reason why incels can’t get dates.

Nah The #1 reason is they only want to date the top5% and those woman have lots of options. Go on dates with people similar to them we they would have options. As people pointed out, go outside and see how many people are in relationships or have been in one in the past couple years. it is almost everyone. If you can't form relationships, the problem is you.

The city analogy is not entirely bunk simply because the internet and social media promote the tendency to see the so-called ideal match as out there and to hold out the prospect of finding it, which you already saw in the dating pool in a place like New York City, where you have millions of potential matches and you know that among them are those who are at the tops of their professions, among the best looking, the wealthiest, the most educated and talented from around the world congregating in one place. But in the end, any given individual who leaves the basement encounters a finite set of people, even on dating apps, most of whom do want to have actual and not merely theoretical relationships. And actually meeting and talking to people creates far more connection than scrolling images and profiles at a distance. What the universe of possible partners really does is place pressure on the duration and quality of actually existing relationships, since there is held out that constant prospect of someone better. So, work on the relationships you do have by being mentally and physically present and active within them.

I currently have two stable girlfriends and have other auxillary women in my life who want to spend time with me. Multiple women currently in my life have told me they want to have babies with me. I have hundreds of matches on tinder even though I haven't updated my profile in several years now. Before I started going steady with my two different girlfriends, I usually slept with about 3 different women per week (not 3 new different women every week, just 3 different women in the same week, generally women I knew and had slept with before). Past girlfriends seem to be constantly coming out of the woodwork to ask how I'm doing, saying we should catch up, telling me they just separated, etc. Ages range from about 20 to about 50.

It is hard to get a date if you're a chump. It is not hard to get a date if you're not a chump. I have several friends who have MAJOR flaws who are still able to get dates and have relationships because there's at least one or two things about them that is/are attractive. All you have to do is work on yourself, your social skills, your career, your physique, your appearance, you mind, and you will have at least some success. The only exception is if you're very short, but even many guys who are 5'5 can still pull women; they just have to work harder. If you're shorter than that, sorry. You got screwed. You should still be able to get laid here and there if you work on yourself though.

That amusing black pill video had one interesting fact, that while between 90 and 100% of women see men from around 5'10" to 6'1" or 6'2" as dateable, the percentage drops rapidly above 6'2" to reach only around 30-40% for men who are 6'6" to 6'8". I doubt that's really true but it does suggest that really short men are actually not that much worse off than really tall men.

prince was 5'3 and picasso was 5'4

xczvzxcv wrote:

That amusing black pill video had one interesting fact, that while between 90 and 100% of women see men from around 5'10" to 6'1" or 6'2" as dateable, the percentage drops rapidly above 6'2" to reach only around 30-40% for men who are 6'6" to 6'8". I doubt that's really true but it does suggest that really short men are actually not that much worse off than really tall men.

6'6+ is absurdly tall. that probably maps to like a 5'2 guy. And here is the important part. There will be a subset of woman(say those 5'10-6'2 ladies) who will find those 6'6 guys attractive compared to that 5'10 guys. There is basically no set of woman that prefers a 5'6 guy over a 5'10 one. It doesnt mean you will be celibate but you need to be better than the 5'10 guys in other ways.

ooli wrote:

prince was 5'3 and picasso was 5'4

if you are in the top .001% in just about anything you will be fine. Not many people can say that.