Cam Newton Cut by Patriots

Sally Vixxxxxxxxens wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

It’s been interesting seeing these hybrid QBs over the years fly high at first then come crashing down to the reality of the physical toil of the NFL.

RG3

Cam

Who else?

Alan

Lamar Jackson.

People forget Colin Kaepernick was genuinely torching offenses for like 1 season. Lit up the packers once, still mad about it.

Michael Vick had a long career and was also maybe the best rushing/scrambler in the history of the NFL?

Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson- we will see.

Sally Vixxxxxxxxens wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

It’s been interesting seeing these hybrid QBs over the years fly high at first then come crashing down to the reality of the physical toil of the NFL.

RG3

Cam

Who else?

Alan

Lamar Jackson.

Vince Young, probably one of the best college quarterback of all time. Came into the NFL and lit it up for a season or two. Then the NFL figures you out. And you also get hurt because you're taking hits. And the defensive players are really fast, faster than what you faced in college.

NFL quarterbacking really comes down to QUICKLY knowing where to throw and then putting it on target.

Running, big arm, mechanics, "leadership", etc. Nice to have, but that's not really the game in the NFL.

POKE IT POKE POKE wrote:

Sally Vixxxxxxxxens wrote:

Lamar Jackson.

Vince Young, probably one of the best college quarterback of all time. Came into the NFL and lit it up for a season or two. Then the NFL figures you out. And you also get hurt because you're taking hits. And the defensive players are really fast, faster than what you faced in college.

NFL quarterbacking really comes down to QUICKLY knowing where to throw and then putting it on target.

Running, big arm, mechanics, "leadership", etc. Nice to have, but that's not really the game in the NFL.

What are you talking about? Young never lit up and his performance during his short career ranged from awful to meh.

31-19 is not awful to meh.

Threat of running quarterback is as important as actually running.

If a QB is a threat to run, passing defenses must play less complicated schemes.

Catch-22. If a QB crosses line of scrimmage, defense are allowed to hit QB like a running back or tight end. The more a QB crosses line of scrimmage the more likely a QB will have a shorter career as do running backs.

Francis Tarkenton, Russell Wilson and Steve Young figured out a good balance between run and pass.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

POKE IT POKE POKE wrote:

Vince Young, probably one of the best college quarterback of all time. Came into the NFL and lit it up for a season or two. Then the NFL figures you out. And you also get hurt because you're taking hits. And the defensive players are really fast, faster than what you faced in college.

NFL quarterbacking really comes down to QUICKLY knowing where to throw and then putting it on target.

Running, big arm, mechanics, "leadership", etc. Nice to have, but that's not really the game in the NFL.

What are you talking about? Young never lit up and his performance during his short career ranged from awful to meh.

What am I talking about? Uh, i'm talking about facts that literally support exactly what I said.

Vince Young rookie season:

- named the NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year

- made the prow bowl

- set record for rushing yards for a rookie qb

- let a crappy titans team to several come from behind fourth quarter victories

surveysays wrote:

31-19 is not awful to meh.

There are other players on the field and teams can have a winning record with just a good running game and defense.

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Check out his stats:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

POKE IT POKE POKE wrote:

Vince Young, probably one of the best college quarterback of all time. Came into the NFL and lit it up for a season or two. Then the NFL figures you out. And you also get hurt because you're taking hits. And the defensive players are really fast, faster than what you faced in college.

NFL quarterbacking really comes down to QUICKLY knowing where to throw and then putting it on target.

Running, big arm, mechanics, "leadership", etc. Nice to have, but that's not really the game in the NFL.

What are you talking about? Young never lit up and his performance during his short career ranged from awful to meh.

He was rookie of the year.

Runningart2004 wrote:

It’s been interesting seeing these hybrid QBs over the years fly high at first then come crashing down to the reality of the physical toil of the NFL.

RG3

Cam

Who else?

Alan

Kaepernick didnt last long and nonwe wasnt as good before getting blackballed as he was those firstbyears.

Kordell Stewart had a few good years

Teebow didnt last long.

There are a few hybrid guys(vick, wilson, young come to mind) with long careers but in the end it is all about the arm.

POKE IT POKE POKE wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

What are you talking about? Young never lit up and his performance during his short career ranged from awful to meh.

What am I talking about? Uh, i'm talking about facts that literally support exactly what I said.

Vince Young rookie season:

- named the NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year

- made the prow bowl

- set record for rushing yards for a rookie qb

- let a crappy titans team to several come from behind fourth quarter victories

His completion percentage his rookie year, was 51% with 12 TD passes and 13 picks. That sucks. A good QB needs to be able to throw accurately.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

surveysays wrote:

31-19 is not awful to meh.

There are other players on the field and teams can have a winning record with just a good running game and defense.

.

Check out his stats:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/Y/YounVi00.htm

Offensive rookie of the year and 2 pro bowl teams is also not awful to meh.

Many of a certain ilk today are struggling with whether to rip on him for being “too hippity-hoppitty” or defending him for getting released in part because of his vaccine reluctance.

Sally Vixxxxxxxxens wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

It’s been interesting seeing these hybrid QBs over the years fly high at first then come crashing down to the reality of the physical toil of the NFL.

RG3

Cam

Who else?

Alan

Lamar Jackson.

"fly high at first then come crashing down" lolz - runners discussing sports makes me laugh.

Cam is 32. He will be a Hall of Famer without a doubt. He had a career 10x more lucrative and successful than any other QB in his draft class. Others in his draft class - Julio Jones, Patrick Pedersen, Von Miller, etc. - are falling off towards the end of their career (as old people do).

RG3 was sabotaged by a coach who was selfishly trying to keep his job. I've never seen a player give more while clearly injured. I felt his pain as he went down - fumbled and didn't try for it because he was seeing pure, painful red. He was never the same after that ACL/MCL tear (non contact).

Lamar is an MVP who has never missed a game.

macdaddy, the wrote:

Cam is 32. He will be a Hall of Famer without a doubt. He had a career 10x more lucrative and successful than any other QB in his draft class. Others in his draft class - Julio Jones, Patrick Pedersen, Von Miller, etc. - are falling off towards the end of their career (as old people do).

If he makes the HOF, then it truly is a Hall of pretty good. Truth is, he was pretty bad for at least half his years. Made it to one SB, and did not look good in it.

ReallybroReally wrote:

macdaddy, the wrote:

Cam is 32. He will be a Hall of Famer without a doubt. He had a career 10x more lucrative and successful than any other QB in his draft class. Others in his draft class - Julio Jones, Patrick Pedersen, Von Miller, etc. - are falling off towards the end of their career (as old people do).

If he makes the HOF, then it truly is a Hall of pretty good. Truth is, he was pretty bad for at least half his years. Made it to one SB, and did not look good in it.

Zero chance he’s in the hall of fame.

Not likely he makes the HOF if he retires now.

52nd all-time in wins among QBs, with 6 active players reasonably catching him in under 3 seasons. 2, Andy Dalton (-1) and Matt Stafford (-1), are almost certain.

T-41st in QBR. Some names ahead of him: Matt Schaub, Colin Kaepernick, Trent Green. IF he plays more he will likely go DOWN the list.

T-55th with Kirk Cousins in Passing Touchdowns.

His one MAJOR qualification: All Time Rushing Touchdown leader among QBs. 70 compared to Steve Young's 43 for 2nd place. Shouldn't the greatest Rushing QB of all time make the HOF?

One MVP, 0-1 Superbowl, 3-4 in Playoffs.

He would need about 6 years of padding the stats and moving up All-Time lists to become a sure HOF. The Phillip Rivers strategy.

POKE IT POKE POKE wrote:

Doesn't matter to him. He's insanely rich. Now he can focus on his true passion, wearing women's clothing.

Hahaha. Excellent!

POKE IT POKE POKE wrote:

Doesn't matter to him. He's insanely rich. Now he can focus on his true passion, wearing women's clothing.

This x 1000.

Cam was done years ago. Carolina gave up on him for a reason.

scam newton was lazy and shiftless. He was more interested in jiving and shucking than in training. He didn't know the playbook, but for sure knew all the crappy rap lyrics.