shelby houlihan report - lrc journalists - pls chase

another observer wrote:

The cases on the AIU website is a big improvement from where we were previously.

^ This ^

Unfortunately the system seems to be going backwards, back to less transparency and murky deals. Just look at these three recent American cases:

1) Thomas' case was not published there because Thomas vetoed it for privacy concerns

2) McNeal was miraculously allowed to compete at the US Trials while banned for five years

3a) Houlihan's provisional suspension was not published there despite the AIU's policy

3b) Houlihan's case was not decided by the DT despite the AIU's policy because of a deal between AIU + Nike to go straight to CAS

3c) the only info AIU published was that CAS unanimously banned Houlihan for four years (without details)

In view of the above, I predicted here two months ago that Nike/Houlihan will (now did?) veto the publication of the full CAS judgment for privacy concerns. Then they can keep claiming it was unfair.

Good deal. I'm not sure why but before I came over here this morning, I pulled up Shelby's Instagram account to see if anything was new in there regarding the appeal. It guess it's the internal letsrun clock going off.

The BTC's Instagram today shows a picture of Shelby wearing a BTC shirt and walking up some bleachers with a BTC guy (Jager? ... can't tell because it's from behind). Anyway, doesn't her ban mean she can't participate in team activities? Or can she just not train with them?

If a similar picture showed up with Saladbar everyone would be going nuts.

glad LRC is on this. Someone needs to be. I'm getting tired of waiting for this, since apparently it's what's needed to say once and for all Shelby cheated. A positive test is not enough...

The report that's going to be released is going to be damning plain and simple. And then a lot of these "clean sport" afficionados are going to have some real explaining to do when it does...

I have always like Kara, and I still do. But I've been disappointed in her over this particular case. She has a whole clean sport podcast, and this happened...still nothing to say. The Olympics and her commenting duties are over. Why nothing still?

Even on Chris McClung's podcast, he had the cajones to say he didn't buy her story. But he kept hedging. Would any athlete get this much grace?

It's a positive test. Not a whereabouts failure. Not sketchy behavior here and there. A positive freaking test. blamed on a burrito. a burrito.

Shelby was an athlete who showed great potential in high school, great in college, and decent as her first three full years as a pro. Then all of a sudden in 2018 something dramatically shifted. She became unstoppable, unbeatable, and kept getting faster and faster, personal best after personal best, she seemed to have no ceiling.

"but she was a sprinter in high school!" she wasn't. she was a mid distance runner, like Infeld and so many others. She has 1500 and mile times. She's been running since she was five. She ran cross-country all four years in the fall. She's not fresh.

"but she had a poor diet before." doesn't everyone in high school and college to some degree? And she was eating a food truck burrito, her diet didn't go from poor to Tom Brady.

Why does someone take three full years of professional training to get to the top and beyond? It reeks of suspicion.

Make up any old BS why not?

The Best Disinfectant wrote:

In the US system at least, when a case is submitted for decision by a judge the parties have no power to block publication of the decision.

A small point of clarification. In the US, the parties cannot block publication, but they can ask a judge to block publication. Judges often grant these requests for disappointing reasons. Here's an example:

another perspective wrote:

My hot take prediction is the key difference and explanation is that the AIU is incompetent and nearly screwed up their own case by not following their own procedures as closely as they should (hence why there was dissent on the panel on the point of the ADRV being properly managed). This added a legal layer of complexity to the case that wasn't present in the Wilson case which was a simple question of the SOC/SAD applying the wrong legal test in their decision and CAS simply overturning it.

This is pretty spot on. The AIU has slightly different testing protocol than the “standard process” that USADA, the ITA, and other anti-doping organizations follow. What entity collected the sample from Shelby on this December 2020 test? Was it USADA, IDTM, Drug Free Sport, Clearidium, ITA or another? If protocol isn’t adhered to strictly it provides the athlete a means to getting the case thrown out.

Be careful what ask for; sometimes ignorance is bliss.

Humans are almost infinitely complex. Because you know someone's life story, you are a fan of them as an athlete and they seen like a wonderful person does not mean you know them. I've come to my own conclusion, which I had to do devoid emotions.

aoenveio wrote:

glad LRC is on this. Someone needs to be. I'm getting tired of waiting for this, since apparently it's what's needed to say once and for all Shelby cheated. A positive test is not enough...

The report that's going to be released is going to be damning plain and simple. And then a lot of these "clean sport" afficionados are going to have some real explaining to do when it does...

+1

But, I still don't believe Nike will allow CAS to publish this. Too damning after all the PR pretending that she actually was innocent.

I must say, well done, Nike. Somehow they managed:

- to stop AIU from publishing the provisional ban in January (against AIU policy)

- to stop AIU from bringing the case to the Disciplinary Tribunal (against AIU policy)

- to go public in a huge PR show before any word from AIU and CAS

As a result, many people seem to think that the WADA lab was incompetent, and AIU, WA and CAS corrupt. And that there was no appeal yet, while CAS - Court of Arbitration for Sport is actually the highest court of appeals in sports.

If AIU had treated that doping case like all the others without making exceptions:

- her provisional ban would have been published in January,

- the case would have been debated here and elsewhere for months,

- the DT would have banned her in May/June, with a public release of all the facts,

- most would have stopped supporting the cheat, with a few hoping for the appeal to CAS,

- CAS would meet soon, and confirm the ban,

- game over, only the most hard core doper apologists would still defend her.

+1

Don't forget that they didn't make public the Salazar judgment either. Disgraceful.

Rojo rocked here, but my experiences in journalism is that most are afraid (at least in Ohio) to go after big stories for fear of losing their jobs, access, and networks. And networks get them better jobs that pay more than journos...so a lot of them cultivate relationships for stories that may be either soft or not super-hard that will rock the boat. Especially journos ages 40 and up, with kids, families and livelihoods.

Rojo and Wejo are solid here!

Mods suck here lol

The delay in a decision was very likely due to Houlihan's Nike lawyers, who were (rightfully) doing everything they could to build a case, taking as much time as they could to delay a decision.

Are they allowed to do this?? wrote:

The BTC's Instagram today shows a picture of Shelby wearing a BTC shirt and walking up some bleachers with a BTC guy (Jager? ... can't tell because it's from behind). Anyway, doesn't her ban mean she can't participate in team activities? Or can she just not train with them?

If a similar picture showed up with Saladbar everyone would be going nuts.

Good catch. It was Woody (according to the tag). Of course we're not sure when the pic was taken.

I am sorry to say I have no clue what all this is about.

What is the accusation?

Is it worse than the lip balm of Johaug?

rojo wrote:

Mods. Do not delete this thread. It was deleted for no good reason and I restored it.

how is this constantly happening? maybe give them clearer instructions about what to delete so totally harmless threads don't disappear all the time?

since you cant identify which bit is wrong, and since much is clearly right, i will assume you are accidentally admitting it is all true. Not a good look for your btc overlords.

i love the bit about her excellent diet, improved over her high school diet. It was her diet got her busted (according to her).

This is why the report has to be published, to stop BOTH parties spouting nonsense. at the moment it merely allows the NIKE PR machine to bulldose their version as fact and allow the crowds to cry foul over any other version.