Talibans enter Kabul as US choppers evacuate embassy

Runningart2004 wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

What's the purpose of those troops? I'll give you a minute.

The embassy is closing. Just like the last time the Taliban took over. Once all of our people are out of there expect all of the troops to follow.

I don't think anyone expected the Taliban to run through quite so fast. There are Afghans who helped us (translators, etc) who need out of there as well.

Alan

What was the purpose of this 20 plus year war? I will give you a minute.

How does 8,000 in and 2,500 out add to a net withdrawal? Take your time,

And if this was 2007 you would be praising these decisions. All depends on whether an R or D is pushing the buttons right?

Wow are you clueless.

Enter China…

Within a year I predict they roll in to take out the Taliban and do to them what they do to the Uyghars. Another reason they wanted Biden elected, so this very thing would happen.

Truck Stop wrote:

Enter China…

Within a year I predict they roll in to take out the Taliban and do to them what they do to the Uyghars. Another reason they wanted Biden elected, so this very thing would happen.

Not if they have learned from history.

The Chinese invaded Viet Nam after America left and got their butts handed to them.

Not a lot of people know this as the MSM totally ignored this

Primo Numero Uno wrote:

Blotto Joe wrote:

Elect a careerist liar and military shill with dementia and be surprised when his first international challenge is a sh#tshow. IN 6 months he has made Jimmy Carter look like a diplomatic genius. nThe worst president in my 65 years as a U.S. citizen.

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Don't know how anyone can defend Biden at this point. It's like he actively working against the US at every point. Pump money into the system when inflation is hot. Throw open the Southern border. The mess that allowed Hammas to shoot missiles at Israel for a week. Done nothing on the pandemic which was his signature issue accept attack DeSantis who everyone on the left is crapping bricks about running in 2024. Been openly divisive. Not this debacle. What a disaster.

+1000000000000

This fiasco is the result of the unholy alliance of neocons and liberal interventionists and their plans to run the planet.

A Republic not an Empire.

The Unkle wrote:

Truck Stop wrote:

Enter China…

Within a year I predict they roll in to take out the Taliban and do to them what they do to the Uyghars. Another reason they wanted Biden elected, so this very thing would happen.

Not if they have learned from history.

The Chinese invaded Viet Nam after America left and got their butts handed to them.

Not a lot of people know this as the MSM totally ignored this

They as a military power is lot different then 43 years ago. You can thank Wal-Mart and Target for that. Also they played nice with fellow communists. They won’t play nice with fundamental Muslims.

It's funny to see Trumpers blaming Joe Biden. The Trump administration signed a "peace" deal with the Taliban and set and announced a schedule for full US troop withdrawal, culminating in final withdrawal May 1st 2021. There were about 13,000 US troops in country at that time and just a couple thousand there when Biden assumed office this year. The Biden admin extended final withdrawal by a few months, but otherwise kept the Trump agreement with the Taliban in place.

I don't see how anyone who supported Trump's deal can now criticize Biden, except for being blatantly politically dishonest.

A peace deal with the Taliban! Stupid and useless. That said, and as dumb I think it was to make any deal with the Taliban and announce a withdrawal schedule, it's clear that we would never have been able to leave and also have a stable Afghan government capable of keeping its people safe and keeping the Taliban out. We certainly did try over twenty years. Oh how we tried. Building bases, training and equipping the ANA with the hope of turning it all over to them safely. Clearly now they were never capable of doing it on their own and we would have had to stay there indefinitely.

I didn't vote for Biden but he's doing the right thing here...

It ain't our fight...

Trump also sought to prevent illegals from flooding the border. Yet Biden chose to do the opposite and open the border. Now there’s a border crisis. Why didn’t Biden just follow through with Trumps border policy too?

This blame game is annoying. You and I mean you decide your fate in America. Not what your ancestors did 150 years ago. Not what the person who has your job did a year ago. It’s not everyone else’s fault. It’s your fault if you succeed or fail. Runners of all people should get this but yet the woke woe is me has invaded our nation.

Big day for liberals!

Truck Stop wrote:

Trump also sought to prevent illegals from flooding the border. Yet Biden chose to do the opposite and open the border. Now there’s a border crisis. Why didn’t Biden just follow through with Trumps border policy too?

Because of his ego...He can't admit that Trump was right.

The writing was on the wall when Mazar-i-Sharif, the stronghold of the Uzbek warlords Abdul Rashid Dostum and Mohammad Atta fill without a whimper. What is going on with the Afghan Army, despite all the bulls%^t claims of them being "ready" they seem to fold without a shot being fired. What a horrible mess!

Exactly. And don't forget pompeo and his disaster of a prisoner release deal.

You clearly cannot separate and debate issues. Everything for you is lumped together into a debate about politicians. Binary thinking and continuous political campaigning. That's a problem in America today. This thread is about Afghanistan, but your response is about everything but that subject.

Truck Stop wrote:

Our only hope is that in 2024 we elect another Ronald Reagan. It’s gonna be rough till then with slow joe.

The good thing though is that states have abeen working on improving election integrity. One citizen One vote!

DeSantis 2024!

Saigon fell when Republican Ford was President. Carter was elected the following year. But I agree with one citizen one vote. Time to get rid of the electoral college!

Truck Stop wrote:

Enter China…

Within a year I predict they roll in to take out the Taliban and do to them what they do to the Uyghars. Another reason they wanted Biden elected, so this very thing would happen.

Why would China want anything to do with Afghanistan? There is nothing of value for them there. Their first target will always be Taiwan.

liberal logic ftw wrote:

This is literally all Trump’s fault.

How so? It's irresponsible to place blame on someone without adding the necessary context. Or are you just trolling?

This situation has deteriorated under Biden. This is on him, not Trump. I was not a fan of Trump, but if he was president we would not be watching US Citizens airlifted out of the Kabul embassy as we flee Afghanistan, and I guarantee he would not be begging the Taliban to not attack the embassy in order to save face. Trump recalculated his Afghanistan timelines multiple times based on conditions on the ground. Biden has been Commander in Cheif for 6 months. The buck 100% stops with him.