Parents: how much does the idea of your kid getting Covid freak you out?

But they’ll be fine if they get the vaccine too. Peds will be fine whether vaccinated or unvaccinated when they eventually get COVID. And they all will.

Flagpole wrote:

retw45 wrote:

Great fearmongering.

Well done.

Not fearmongering. Truth. I said above that that his kid will LIKELY be fine. I wouldn't have said that if I just wanted to be a fearmongerer. I don't deal in fearmongering. I only deal in facts.

Do you also write such posts when someone has a cold? A broken leg? Did you know one can die from complications after breaking a leg?

No. You are fearmongering because it is COVID.

Your post contains facts but you wrote it in a fear-inducing way, trying to "alert" the parent to the very worst scenarios.

Agree with RSV outbreak

Fear mongering at it's worst. Part 3 is over the top. Everything you said in item 3 could be said about the vaccines. Additionally, as others have noted, the recent off season spike in RSV cases (which is causing most of the rise in pediatric hospitalizations) is almost entirely a byproduct of masking, shutdowns and people missing preventative care appointments out of fear of the hospital and backlogs to see physicians after their clinics were shutdown early in the pandemic.

Danicmic1 wrote:

But they’ll be fine if they get the vaccine too. Peds will be fine whether vaccinated or unvaccinated when they eventually get COVID. And they all will.

My feelings exactly. Avoiding it is…kinda pointless.

runner dad guy wrote:

My three year old got Covid recently. Had a bad cough, fever for a couple days, but it really was similar to a half-dozen other times he’s gotten sick.

He’d played with a friend’s kids a few days before, so I called them, and the parents ABSOLUTELY PANICKED.

Based on the data, I don't see much reason to be overly concerned about Covid in kids. Nobody likes seeing their child in discomfort, but the risk of serious complications is extremely low. Curious how other parents here see things.

I’ll give you an honest answer. I have a 4 year old and a 1 year old. I would prefer they not get it and have taken reasonable precautions that have thus far been successful but am more laid back and historically have tried to provide balance emphasizing the need for normal social encounters and stuff.

That said my wife is very concerned. She has serious trepidation about the impact of long covid on kids. Our little ones have some non serious underlying respiratory issues as well.

One important difference… my wife is a pediatric infectious disease physician who works on one of the mRNA vaccines. Her opinion is infinitely more valid than mine so I have started to take her concerns more seriously with the delta variant.

retw45 wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Not fearmongering. Truth. I said above that that his kid will LIKELY be fine. I wouldn't have said that if I just wanted to be a fearmongerer. I don't deal in fearmongering. I only deal in facts.

Do you also write such posts when someone has a cold? A broken leg? Did you know one can die from complications after breaking a leg?

No. You are fearmongering because it is COVID.

Your post contains facts but you wrote it in a fear-inducing way, trying to "alert" the parent to the very worst scenarios.

1) You are a moron.

2) We do not have a vaccine for colds.

3) We do not have ICUs that are inundated with people dying from colds.

4) Your broken leg thing is ridiculous. Yes, I know you can die from a broken leg. You can die from sitting too long without moving too. Means nothing. Those are not PANDEMICS.

5) No, I did not write what I wrote in a "fear-inducing" way. COVID-19 is a killer virus. COVID-19 is a virus that has many long-term bad side effects. I properly mentioned those, and ONLY after the father asked if he should be concerned.

6) Stop being a moron. Stupid is as stupid does, so it is POSSIBLE for you to stop being a moron. Achieve that!

I have 3 kids ages 18, 15, and 11. The younger two I am not worried about it. The oldest has severe asthma. He recently had Covid symptoms plus was having breathing issues. Overnight stay in hospital and it turned out to be rhinovirus not Covid. For people with serious asthma Covid can be really rough.

Actually, NO, what I said in #3 can NOT be said about vaccines. Vaccines show issues within 6 WEEKS, and this goes for ALL vaccines. There is no reason to believe these COVID vaccines are any different, even the mRNA ones. You're just wrong.

The RSV outbreak is perhaps a symptom of proper action during this pandemic, but that is not a reason to not get vaccinated, and it has nothing to do with the OP's initial question.

ALSO, the RSV usually goes away on its own within 14 days, so sorry, but that's an acceptable result and doesn't support moron anti-vaxxers.

CCB wrote:

I have 3 kids ages 18, 15, and 11. The younger two I am not worried about it. The oldest has severe asthma. He recently had Covid symptoms plus was having breathing issues. Overnight stay in hospital and it turned out to be rhinovirus not Covid. For people with serious asthma Covid can be really rough.

Are the two older ones vaccinated?

1) You are a moron, as attested by Letrsun's posters general opinion.

2) So you should be even more worried about them.

3) Maybe not where you live.

4) Remove COVID from the news for 1 week and try to find that pandemic at the moment.

5) Life is also a killer. You should go and instill fear in people for being alive.

6) I won't ask you to stop being a moron because you have proven over the years that such ask is beyond your capabilities.

You are wise. I ALSO have a wife who is an expert in such matters (graduate degree in Immunology from Stanford, used to work for Tony Fauci at the NIH). I trust her opinion. I oddly enough have a LOT of scientists in my family who all share similar concerns as your wife and my wife do. Sister is a research scientist who WAS working on viruses used to target cancers but has been working on COVID-related stuff since the pandemic started. Her husband is has an MS in Neurobiology and works as a pharmacist/researcher. My brother is a lawyer but also has a Ph.D. in pharmacology.

Anyway, I trust all of these science people in my life AND Tony Fauci (those who know him call him "Tony") over the non-science morons who spout crap here.

Wow, you are so stupid. You MUST be Sally posting under another name.

retw45 wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

3) The parents of your kid are right to have panicked though. At that point their kid hadn't yet gotten sick and recovered. ALSO (and you should talk to your kid's doctor if you haven't already), there are potential bad long-term side effects of getting COVID...damage to the heart and lungs chief among them. There is also the possibility of mental health issues (this is NOT an extremely low possibility). Not enough data yet to say if a 3-year-old is less likely to have these bad side effects or not. Finally, viruses are very mysterious, and some rear their ugly heads years, even decades later (see Chicken Pox and Shingles). We do not yet know what might happen 20 years down the road for people who were infected.

Great fearmongering.

Well done.

+1

highhoppingworm wrote:

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That said my wife is very concerned. She has serious trepidation about the impact of long covid on kids. Our little ones have some non serious underlying respiratory issues as well.

There’s no solid evidence to support the idea that long Covid even exists in adults, let alone it being an issue of serious concern for kids.

I have a strong suspicion that at least some of these “long” cases are psychosomatic...similar to “chronic Lyme disease.” Tell someone over and over that they might have something as nebulous and undefinable as “brain fog,” and suddenly they start feeling forgetful.

I’ll believe it if it proves true when tested against placebo, but until then I have my doubts on the veracity of “long Covid.”

Flagpole wrote:

retw45 wrote:

1) You are a moron, as attested by Letrsun's posters general opinion.

2) So you should be even more worried about them.

3) Maybe not where you live.

4) Remove COVID from the news for 1 week and try to find that pandemic at the moment.

5) Life is also a killer. You should go and instill fear in people for being alive.

6) I won't ask you to stop being a moron because you have proven over the years that such ask is beyond your capabilities.

Wow, you are so stupid. You MUST be Sally posting under another name.

Wow, you are stupid. You MUST be yourself posting under your usual name.

Let me see… trust my wife, one of the more qualified people in the world to have an opinion on this or some anonymous dude on a message board named runner dad guy. Tough choice.

And oh ya… just fear mongering and fake news right?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/13/us/dallas-county-no-pediatric-icu-beds-left/index.html

How much of the strain on Pediatric ICU capacity is tied to COVID and how much is tied to a combination of not challenging kids immune systems over the past year, missed medical appointments and the RSV outbreak (which is tied to the other two factors)? Based on the article, they have 285 beds staffed (which they may be intentionally limiting to show strain), with 2 available, and they have 64 kids hospitalized for COVID (typically 1 in 3 hospitalized kids requires treatment in the ICU), indicating that about 22 of the 283 (7.8%)ICU beds in use are occupied by COVID cases. The other 261 (92.2%) are due to other factors. Since they typically aim for 70-80% utilization, the ICU was already strained due to consequences of shutdown measures and masking before you take into account COVID. I am not sure more masking and shutdowns is necessarily the solution as those two issues contributed to the surge in other hospitalizations.

What is evident from this article is the Judge is using kids as political collateral as a means to allow the Dallas to determine its own masking ordinances. Nothing draws sympathy for a political fight more than sick kids.