every time, a hot olympic marathon. can't it be in september?

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oldasslawyer wrote:

The issue isn’t ideal conditions for world/oly records. The problem is that the entire race in conditions like this becomes about the weather and adjusting to it, when it should be about the race and your competitors

thank you. I didn't mean my post in terms of times - who cares. only that piling on all this heat turns it into a different kind of event, and even makes it dangerous for some people. ability to withstand heatstroke should not be the trait that is tested at the olympics

Been said before but the weather conditions for the marathon are the last thing they consider even selecting host cities and dates.

Or start the race before two hours before dawn.

sprooty wrote:

I mean the marathon, but maybe the olympics in general. do organizers seriously not realize that the race/games will always be too hot for distance running, or do they just not care?

Whole heartedly agree. This is one of the many adjustments we must make due to global warming and climate change. The “summer” games should be moved to fall.

sprooty wrote:

I mean the marathon, but maybe the olympics in general. do organizers seriously not realize that the race/games will always be too hot for distance running, or do they just not care?

For us the Marathon and all T&F events are very important. But there are 33 different sports and 339 different events in the Summer Olympics and the organizers are not going to alter or select a host City to accommodate the Marathon.

You think they're going to move the entire Olympics so the marathon finishing times can be a couple of minutes faster....

R&R wrote:

It was 77F with 99% humidity (And cloudy) when I checked the weather in Tokyo during the race.

It could easily be that hot in Paris or LA on race day. The last three HM's I ran were 84F, 73F, and 82F, and that was in the Czech Republic which people generally think of as much colder than all the mentioned locations! (All afternoon races, obv.).

I get all the complaints if it were 90F and 99% humidity... but everyone has the same weather, and I wouldn't say the conditions were deadly. Difficult, sure. Not sure Kipchoge even broke a sweat.

The race was not in Tokyo. It was 27 deg C and 77% RH.

sprooty wrote:

I mean the marathon, but maybe the olympics in general. do organizers seriously not realize that the race/games will always be too hot for distance running, or do they just not care?

But the best guys n gals won the medals. So what's the problem?

broken arrow wrote:

sprooty wrote:

I mean the marathon, but maybe the olympics in general. do organizers seriously not realize that the race/games will always be too hot for distance running, or do they just not care?

For us the Marathon and all T&F events are very important. But there are 33 different sports and 339 different events in the Summer Olympics and the organizers are not going to alter or select a host City to accommodate the Marathon.

no, but the marathon could be treated separately...or they could just make the whole olympics later, considering I doubt this is a problem only for the marathon.

In the summer, it gets...

If you were able to successfully complete that sentence, then stop complaining about the SUMMER Olympics being hot.

Ditch the Olympics. Have a world Championship in Berlin every year.

Only host the olympics in the Southern Hemisphere

This is a great point...

why not have the Marathon in September coupled with a 10km Cross Country Olympic event?

based on weather casualties across the board in every Olympic period... why not shift the entire event one month to the right?

i know, i know... other US sports and advertising

this is all about money.. maximizing gain and athletes are pawns making nothing out of the tremendous gains made by the powers behind the curtain..

Old Oregonian wrote:

Ditch the Olympics. Have a world Championship in Berlin every year.

It is interesting..

I for one feel there should be a worlds annually with an Olympic event every 4 years that is based on old school atmosphere... etc uniform basic equipment (shoes etc)... really make it about ACTUAL abolity and not all these gains from shoes, surface and equipment

perhaps even a cinder track so that all eras can be compared

It is interesting, and perhaps somewhat surprising, that there is a sub-set of distance fans who would prefer that all distance races have ideal/near-ideal conditions. Like others, I find it easy to look at it the other way, as in, "Don't we already have enough of those kind of races (London, Berlin, Boston, Chicago, New York, etc.)?" I'll always remember thinking that the World XC Championships being in hot coastal Kenya many years ago made it much more interesting (including Bekele calling it quits mid-race). But, of course, there were plenty who complained.

And as someone else mentioned, it's not like the warm and/or hilly marathons necessarily select clearly slower-under-ideal-circumstances people for all of the top spots. Kipchoge obviously won quite easily. And on the women's side, the WR holder was second, and I believe that the final pack of 5 had PRs of 2:14, 2x 2:17, 2:19, and.....Molly at 2:25(!). And would I want extreme conditions if it meant that the WHOLE lead pack was 2:25er's? No. But if it means that ONE (or a few) of them has a chance - a chance that wouldn't occur when it's 50 and cloudy in Berlin - that's pretty cool.

oldasslawyer wrote:

The issue isn’t ideal conditions for world/oly records. The problem is that the entire race in conditions like this becomes about the weather and adjusting to it, when it should be about the race and your competitors

The BEST competitors, those who are truly STRONG adapt to the weather. Of course, weak competitors and weak minded people can't and routinely ask for these changes. You get my drift?

doctorj wrote:

oldasslawyer wrote:

The issue isn’t ideal conditions for world/oly records. The problem is that the entire race in conditions like this becomes about the weather and adjusting to it, when it should be about the race and your competitors

The BEST competitors, those who are truly STRONG adapt to the weather. Of course, weak competitors and weak minded people can't and routinely ask for these changes. You get my drift?

Fine, lets have the olympics in Tunisia in the summer, tough guy

lenovo1 wrote:

SUMMMER Olympics

There's your answer. We need a spring and autumn Olympics. Big pro: Olympics every year!