Sifan Hassan is the best of you all haters and she is CLEAN

Lmao Hassan is clean what a joke. I don't believe any clean training program can produce an athlete that is capable of world records in the 1500 and the half marathon in the same block/season. She was capable to run extremely fast over the marathon as well and I don't think such a feat is possible clean.

She seriously considered doing the 800/10000 double in Doha...how much do you need? Every recent coach that trains her is willing to do whatever it takes to get the best possible result there's no way she's clean. Everyone immediately called out the Chinese when they were doping yet now the times they ran are getting blown out of the water ridiculously and we still have people defending obvious dopers.

Passant wrote:

Kobbs Hessler wrote:

Hard to care about her.

I would care of how she would have done in the 1500m if she didn't had this fatigue.

Remember, everyone was saying that Ingerbrigsten is not a kicker!

Hassan has the endurance to go under 3:50 in the 1500m.

odd how Ingebrigtsen fits your various narratives.

Passant wrote:

Kobbs Hessler wrote:

Hard to care about her.

I would care of how she would have done in the 1500m if she didn't had this fatigue.

Remember, everyone was saying that Ingerbrigsten is not a kicker!

Hassan has the endurance to go under 3:50 in the 1500m.

Science says no woman probably has this 1500m endurance

Have my doubts about anyone but mostly just want to enjoy good performances until something clear cut comes out about an athlete, their coach, or their group.

Obviously Salazar is a red flag but when she went to him (& it wasn't for that long right?) he was still coaching Mo right? You would expect a top athlete to link up with a top coach. & we know Salazar brought different athletes along (into his methods) at different speeds. It's clear that Salazar had a very small number of athletes in an inner circle kind of thing. It's sort of like Bowerman. The whole squad is tarnished imo but, other than Shelby, I have no clue who is clean & who isn't. Everyone defending her was a bit much but she could have gone rogue from the team or was chosen by coaches/Nike personnel to put different things in her body than everyone else. Who knows.

Innocent until proven guilty. Hassan has been really good for a long time. Unique talent with speed, endurance, range, etc.

Most doped female distance runner of all time. MDOAT.

But that's just it - she wasn't always this good. In 2017 she faded badly in the stretch because she ran out of gas. Then she comes back in 2019 and destroys many of the same runners after winning a 10K without even appearing tired? It's reasonable to have questions when a runner makes such a dramatic transformation well into their career.

griles17 wrote:

I'd bet on her being clean

Why do we give her and Kipchoge(!!) a pass? They both fail the common sense test. Super humans with great genes that work hard and peak at the right time, should be separated from other super humans who have great genes and work hard and peak at the right time...by a second or two. Not running away from people like they are standing still. I dont trust Sifan doing things that stand out THAT much, and Kipchoge running 14 low for a 5k at 30k while every single other runner succumbs to physiology. It just fails the eye test. In most sports the people at the top are almost impossible to separate. In cycling, the guys that rides away from everyone on a recovery day, are almost always pinched. We see it too much.

I really hope she is just naturally able to run a 400 all out on the last lap every time I see her run while everyone else looks human.

I hope Kipchoge is so good that he can smile on a hot day while running away from every single other runner that are unable to even run within 10-12 sec per mile as fast as him. But historically ...doesnt look good.

Son,i'm gonna stomp a hogwaller in your ass. See my windows driving through a fierce storm on a narrow road across Broke back Mountain is cleaner than Hassan.

Now,I aint supposed to be tellin nobody that I use 15 drops of lemon oil, 1/2 cup of my auntees apple cider vinegar and a 1/2 cup water from Ned's well when I finish drivin to get a nice shine,but I cant imagine what Hassan uses to stay clean. You pullin a fast one on me? This woman should be tireder than a 2 peckered billie goat or a one leged man in an A$$ kicking contest. But she just breezed right on over to the pee cup after the last race and said test me,I'm clean.

Only she knows for sure…

ShilohDoesntCare wrote:

Lmao Hassan is clean what a joke. I don't believe any clean training program can produce an athlete that is capable of world records in the 1500 and the half marathon in the same block/season. She was capable to run extremely fast over the marathon as well and I don't think such a feat is possible clean.

She seriously considered doing the 800/10000 double in Doha...how much do you need? Every recent coach that trains her is willing to do whatever it takes to get the best possible result there's no way she's clean. Everyone immediately called out the Chinese when they were doping yet now the times they ran are getting blown out of the water ridiculously and we still have people defending obvious dopers.

Hilarious! I don't believe anyone can do it so it's dirty! Instead of a biological passport, we can have a "performance" passport. Those who perform too well will be banned from the sport.

World records, winning multiple events, and beating the competition by an unreasonable margin will require immediate suspension until a letsrun tribunal can officially ban them. I'm sure the conviction rate will be similar to Japan's justice system.

Eranu wrote:

Why is it her former coach isnt coaching anymore again?

Because of unjust persecution

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bladerunner wrote:

Instead of a biological passport, we can have a "performance" passport. Those who perform too well will be banned from the sport.

This is what Kara Goucher wants. She accused Galen Rupp of doping for the sole reason he recovered too quickly in 2012.

Ridiculous she was allowed to announce the marathon

You're sexist for attacking Shelby.

The thing is be honest with yourself. None of us. And I mean none of us know whether someone is clean or dirty. It’s all opinion and everyone has one…

How do you know she isn't doping? Are you by her side 24/7?

I totally agree. She will go down in track and field history probably like the most accomplished, complete, distance track runner in history (men and women) What she accomplished, will never be duplicated again. This is equal to Emil Zatopek's triumph (5,000, 10,000 and the Marathon) Just remember that as iron is eaten by rust, so are the envious consumed by envy.

Misfit62 wrote:

I totally agree. She will go down in track and field history probably like the most accomplished, complete, distance track runner in history (men and women) What she accomplished, will never be duplicated again. This is equal to Emil Zatopek's triumph (5,000, 10,000 and the Marathon) Just remember that as iron is eaten by rust, so are the envious consumed by envy.

Viren at Montreal beats both of them, if ones cares to study the matter.

Two 10000m races, two 5000m races, and a completed marathon 10 minutes faster than Zatopek, on less than 24 hours rest from the 5000m final.

All packed into 8 days. Incredible.

sky wrote:

Misfit62 wrote:

I totally agree. She will go down in track and field history probably like the most accomplished, complete, distance track runner in history (men and women) What she accomplished, will never be duplicated again. This is equal to Emil Zatopek's triumph (5,000, 10,000 and the Marathon) Just remember that as iron is eaten by rust, so are the envious consumed by envy.

Viren at Montreal beats both of them, if ones cares to study the matter.

Two 10000m races, two 5000m races, and a completed marathon 10 minutes faster than Zatopek, on less than 24 hours rest from the 5000m final.

All packed into 8 days. Incredible.

And Viren was probably cleaner than Hassan.

And that's like saying the Bombay sewer is cleaner than the Calcutta sewer.

Eranu wrote:

Why is it her former coach isnt coaching anymore again?

Not so sure if she's clean or not, but the Salazar association actually HELPS Hassan. Years of investigation and the guy is convicted of giving an assistant coach too many vitamins?