I heard the NBC commentator (the one with a British accent) talking up Katir before the race. Maybe I'm out of the loop, but what did he do to earn that hype?
I heard the NBC commentator (the one with a British accent) talking up Katir before the race. Maybe I'm out of the loop, but what did he do to earn that hype?
As a hindu I could have told you the outcome, made a pretty penny off my bets in this 5k. Katir was never in it, tho I have to thank his choke for skewing the odds to my profits. Better luck next time allah :D
Ghost1 wrote:
Jimmy Gressier, ran as well as could be expected in those kinds of conditions and with that type of magnificent field. His 1311, even though outside his best, should be worth around 1303 to 1306 in good conditions if not faster.
In France we will say -“il a rempli son contrat”- which means he fulfilled the expectations expected of him coming here.
Perhaps he will celebrate with a binge meal tonight in McDonald’s as there are plenty of those outlets in Japan. This is somewhat paradoxical in a country which has so many healthy food options available.
Tears for Katir. I predict he will say post race, “ This is destiny and this is the way Allah (The great one above ) decided to play out the race“
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strawman1 wrote:
Chaul Pelimo wrote:
You are an insufferable racist moron.
Had Katir run well - obvious doper.
Katir doesn't run well - obvious doper.
Poor Katir, born with the wrong skin color and in the wrong country to be Coevett-approved.
This is an obvious strawman, you’re injecting race into something that has nothing to do with it, it doesn’t support your argument.
You must be new here if you don't know Coevett's motives for accusing Katir of doping.
His posting history support my argument, Mr. Strawman.
Saul Chelimsky wrote:
I heard the NBC commentator (the one with a British accent) talking up Katir before the race. Maybe I'm out of the loop, but what did he do to earn that hype?
1500m: 3:28
3000m: 7:27
5000m: 12:50
All in the past 2-3 months
His 13:06 in hot and humid conditions are consistent with his recent 12:50 PB.
Chepteguei is a 12:35 guy.
All guys in front of him are super strong and proved to be so over several seasons.
He obviously peaked too early. And is only 23.
In WA scoring tables terms there have been many performances with bigger improvements than Katir (around 100 points) this games.
pkl wrote:
His 13:06 in hot and humid conditions are consistent with his recent 12:50 PB.
Chepteguei is a 12:35 guy.
All guys in front of him are super strong and proved to be so over several seasons.
He obviously peaked too early. And is only 23.
In WA scoring tables terms there have been many performances with bigger improvements than Katir (around 100 points) this games.
This, plus he lacks experience at this level of competition.
13:06 in these conditions and people saying he's a bum? Are you serious? He'll be back. Don't forget Mo Ahmed got the silver and his team now has confirmed athletes that have been consuming juiced "burritos". No information on Katir's "fitness" as of yet but that may well be the case.
GrapeSon wrote:
How is noone in this thread seeing the obvious answer to how Katir failed here? You're all obsessed with doping, this place is downright depressing. He's been training largely at altitude in Sierra Nevada which has cool temperatures and low humidity. The most likely reason he didn't look as strong was the heat and humidity.
There's that, and there's the type of race it became. Inconsistent pacing (but fast), and a very fast extended finish. Katir wasn't seasoned enough for all that.
pkl wrote:
His 13:06 in hot and humid conditions are consistent with his recent 12:50 PB.
Chepteguei is a 12:35 guy.
All guys in front of him are super strong and proved to be so over several seasons.
He obviously peaked too early. And is only 23.
In WA scoring tables terms there have been many performances with bigger improvements than Katir (around 100 points) this games.
What do you think Paul’s time was worth then?
Chaul Pelimo wrote:
strawman1 wrote:
This is an obvious strawman, you’re injecting race into something that has nothing to do with it, it doesn’t support your argument.
You must be new here if you don't know Coevett's motives for accusing Katir of doping.
His posting history support my argument, Mr. Strawman.
Nearly everybody except the usual crowd of doping apologist trolls here think he is cheating because of his remarkable improvement at age 23 in such a short time, in the background of an environment and culture (whether it is Spainor Morocco) that is doping rotten to the core. His manager coached several dopers and has gone on record as saying that convicted dopers should be given a third and fourth chance.
Stop playing the race card to justify the exploitation through doping of poverty stricken third world natives or migrants. Mr Ad Hominem.
pkl wrote:
His 13:06 in hot and humid conditions are consistent with his recent 12:50 PB.
Chepteguei is a 12:35 guy.
All guys in front of him are super strong and proved to be so over several seasons.
He obviously peaked too early. And is only 23.
In WA scoring tables terms there have been many performances with bigger improvements than Katir (around 100 points) this games.
So the Guatemalan with a NR with 13,10 is good for 12,54??
What about the inconsistency of the lord Sebastian Coe?
One year: World record
The next year: "my toe hurts me" and caused me to lose the European Championship
How about Grijalva running a national record and 3 second pr in those conditions! He can surely run low 13 in perfect Euro conditions. Grant Fisher was two seconds off Katir. Fisher has a great shot at 12:58 in Europe if Jerry lets him race.
I know track was not enough fair with this runner.
He is the one that hurt the most the Britannic.
And he is the one that turned a page of track and field history.
All by his own endeavor.
https://www.larousse.fr/encyclopedie/data/images/1006306-Sa%C3%AFd_Aouita.jpg
Loppas wrote:
Ghost1 wrote:
I wish people would stop saying that he’s connected to Morocco but he has no connection to Morocco anymore
Not connected to Morocco? Moroccans are very family orientated. Although they fled Morocco for a better life in Europe, they never forget where they come from. Moroccans have BIG families, sure that's the case with the Katirs as well. And although he has grown up in Spain (Moroccans moving to Spain has shown to be a bad combo), and integrated well, he stil has his parents and siblings in Spain, and the Moroccans are good finding eachother in other countries, so you are naive to believe that he has had no Moroccan influences in his life. And of course the have gone back in their holidays as well!
If he dope, I don't know. But you cannot use the fake fact that he has no connection to Morocco or that he is a "devoted muslim", as a proof that he doesn't dope!
From youtube comments I read from Moroccan that know him, he spend every summer in Morocco.
^^ this
Living in Spain as a Muleño he can claim being as Spanish as they come but his birthplace is Ksar El Kébir and he is 100% Moroccan. I wouldn't be suprised if he trains in Ifrane when he travels home
5000mLegend wrote:
Katir is going to win easily.
There are nobody.
The best Ethiopians are not there. Jakob is not there.
The 5000 is a depleted event. Katir is going to outkick the two Ugandans easily.
This aged well
he went off cycle for the games just like bromell and you see what he is actually capable of.
lke_4:25 wrote:
pkl wrote:
His 13:06 in hot and humid conditions are consistent with his recent 12:50 PB.
Chepteguei is a 12:35 guy.
All guys in front of him are super strong and proved to be so over several seasons.
He obviously peaked too early. And is only 23.
In WA scoring tables terms there have been many performances with bigger improvements than Katir (around 100 points) this games.
What do you think Paul’s time was worth then?
Closer to 12:40 than to 12:50.
Loppas wrote:
pkl wrote:
His 13:06 in hot and humid conditions are consistent with his recent 12:50 PB.
Chepteguei is a 12:35 guy.
All guys in front of him are super strong and proved to be so over several seasons.
He obviously peaked too early. And is only 23.
In WA scoring tables terms there have been many performances with bigger improvements than Katir (around 100 points) this games.
So the Guatemalan with a NR with 13,10 is good for 12,54??
Sub 13:00.
Do you really expect anyone to predict performances to the second?
A 12:50 raced perfectly is not very different from a 13:06 raced imperfectly. He could have probably run a bit faster today, but obviously he was aiming at the medals and seeing himself so far he didn't fight for 7th or 6th.
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