SYDNEY!!!!!!!!!!!!

lara_croft wrote:

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What makes the men’s race the best ever other than the insane time by Warholm? Not disagreeing just curious!

I'll suggest the slew of national and continental records.

Common Cents wrote:

Wise Old Man wrote:

Hard to believe, but even better race than last night’s men’s race. Right? So now this is the greatest track race ever….

The women's 400 hurdles world record is still a little soft. It's 4 seconds slower than the 400 flat world record, while the men's 400h world record is only 2.9 seconds slower than the 400 flat world record.

And Sydney would have run .2 faster if she hadn't stutter stepped the 9th hurdle.

I've said it in other threads, ill say it again, you need consider what SHOULD be the women's 400 record. LEt's just add a half second to it. Syd is only 3.5 off what should be the record. Decent chance she sheds that half second over the next few years.

actually, she is more 3.3 seconds off the REAL flat 400 record.

Common Cents wrote:

Wise Old Man wrote:

Hard to believe, but even better race than last night’s men’s race. Right? So now this is the greatest track race ever….

The women's 400 hurdles world record is still a little soft. It's 4 seconds slower than the 400 flat world record, while the men's 400h world record is only 2.9 seconds slower than the 400 flat world record.

And Sydney would have run .2 faster if she hadn't stutter stepped the 9th hurdle.

That's because the women's flat time is Marita Koch's thoroughly world class performance. I wouldn't measure the gap from that personally.

Common Cents wrote:

Wise Old Man wrote:

Hard to believe, but even better race than last night’s men’s race. Right? So now this is the greatest track race ever….

The women's 400 hurdles world record is still a little soft. It's 4 seconds slower than the 400 flat world record, while the men's 400h world record is only 2.9 seconds slower than the 400 flat world record.

And Sydney would have run .2 faster if she hadn't stutter stepped the 9th hurdle.

I’m not sure of the methodology behind the IAAF scoring tables, but yes, according to them Warholm’s record is “better” than Syd’s. If you are basing your conclusion that 45.94 is better than 51.46 because of these results relative to the flat 400 records, the women's hurdle record is 7.5% slower and the men’s 6.3%, so not much difference. Also the women’s flat 400 record is one of the most doped records ever. However, my main point was that the women's race was a better race in terms of the battle between first and second. The outcome was more in doubt until the last few meters and the finish closer. Rai ran great, but Warholm was in the command and the outcome was less in doubt down the home stretch. Syd had to overcome Delilah at the very last moment and Dalilah looked to have the win in hand through hurdle 10.

lara_croft wrote:

What makes the men’s race the best ever other than the insane time by Warholm? Not disagreeing just curious!

The insane times by everyone else in the race, not just Walholm is what sets it apart. A man ran 46.72 and got BRONZE in an Olympic race, one year ago if he ran that he would have the WR and instead he got thoroughly destroyed. The women's race was incredible but the shift of times in the men's is astronomical and makes it the better race.

I'm pretty young but the only other race I recall having the same reaction to was 2012 M 800m.

haha YOYO wrote:

lara_croft wrote:

What makes the men’s race the best ever other than the insane time by Warholm? Not disagreeing just curious!

The insane times by everyone else in the race, not just Walholm is what sets it apart. A man ran 46.72 and got BRONZE in an Olympic race, one year ago if he ran that he would have the WR and instead he got thoroughly destroyed. The women's race was incredible but the shift of times in the men's is astronomical and makes it the better race.

I'm pretty young but the only other race I recall having the same reaction to was 2012 M 800m.

What are you talking about? Bol ran 52.03 for the bronze. That would have been the wr at the start of the summer.

haha YOYO wrote:

lara_croft wrote:

What makes the men’s race the best ever other than the insane time by Warholm? Not disagreeing just curious!

The insane times by everyone else in the race, not just Walholm is what sets it apart. A man ran 46.72 and got BRONZE in an Olympic race, one year ago if he ran that he would have the WR and instead he got thoroughly destroyed. The women's race was incredible but the shift of times in the men's is astronomical and makes it the better race.

I'm pretty young but the only other race I recall having the same reaction to was 2012 M 800m.

err.. bronze in the women's race would've been a world record last world championship, too.

Wow. Iron sharpens iron. Amazing. One against the other. Two hurdle queens pushing their limits. Iron sharpening iron. We got a chance to talk to Sydney about their relationship and she said "Lewis, iron sharpens iron." Wow. Amazing.

Cmon man wrote:

Common Cents wrote:

The women's 400 hurdles world record is still a little soft. It's 4 seconds slower than the 400 flat world record, while the men's 400h world record is only 2.9 seconds slower than the 400 flat world record.

And Sydney would have run .2 faster if she hadn't stutter stepped the 9th hurdle.

That's because the women's flat time is Marita Koch's thoroughly world class performance. I wouldn't measure the gap from that personally.

Which is a well documented state doping effort. Marita should be nowhere near the record books.

Y’all just watched a future goat. She would win the open 400 not Mu. Syd could probably win the heptathlon with four years of training. She’s a freak.

Now the US 4x400 should me Muhammad lead off, Mu second, Felix third, Sydney Anchor.

Oh and get ready cause Sydney is the new Felix in terms of being the media darling. Get used to it for the next ten years lol.

I won't bother looking them up but there are threads on this forum that questioned Sydney's training, her indoor effort in those short sprint races. Some calling her the next LoLo Jones who should just go into modeling now and save herself from embarrassment on the track.

VroomVroom wrote:

Y’all just watched a future goat. She would win the open 400 not Mu. Syd could probably win the heptathlon with four years of training. She’s a freak.

Now the US 4x400 should me Muhammad lead off, Mu second, Felix third, Sydney Anchor.

Oh and get ready cause Sydney is the new Felix in terms of being the media darling. Get used to it for the next ten years lol.

I have my money on Mu being even a bigger star than Syd and the face of USA T&F for the next decade. BTW, Mu would beat Syd in the flat 400 too.

Disturbing Dead Horse Beatdown wrote:

Wow. Iron sharpens iron. Amazing. One against the other. Two hurdle queens pushing their limits. Iron sharpening iron. We got a chance to talk to Sydney about their relationship and she said "Lewis, iron sharpens iron." Wow. Amazing.

^^^^^^exactly this. Wrestlers talk about this all the time. It’s the same that pushed Warholm and Benjamin on their amazing run. Same thing with these two women. When they go to work everyday they’re on each other minds. They know if they aren’t doing the extra work than the other one will. It’s what it takes to get these amazing results.

Same thing with Bolt there for awhile when it looked like Yohan was coming for him. Just wish Blake could of stayed healthy to push Bolt a little more.

VroomVroom wrote:

Disturbing Dead Horse Beatdown wrote:

Wow. Iron sharpens iron. Amazing. One against the other. Two hurdle queens pushing their limits. Iron sharpening iron. We got a chance to talk to Sydney about their relationship and she said "Lewis, iron sharpens iron." Wow. Amazing.

^^^^^^exactly this. Wrestlers talk about this all the time. It’s the same that pushed Warholm and Benjamin on their amazing run. Same thing with these two women. When they go to work everyday they’re on each other minds. They know if they aren’t doing the extra work than the other one will. It’s what it takes to get these amazing results.

Same thing with Bolt there for awhile when it looked like Yohan was coming for him. Just wish Blake could of stayed healthy to push Bolt a little more.

Same as Hassan against EVERYBODY else in the 1500 and up.

lara_croft wrote:

bugattiaron wrote:

I disagree. I think the men's race is still arguably the best track race in Olympic history, possibly the best track race ever. I think Sydney's performance is top four best easily though. But to each their own

What makes the men’s race the best ever other than the insane time by Warholm? Not disagreeing just curious!

First off, I think Warholm and Benjamin's performances were a little better than Sydney's, but I also think it's completely insane that all three medalists broke the previous record and the top two absolutely obliterated it. I feel the rivalry between Sydney and Dalilah also had a little less hype since they're from the same country, but that part's just a personal opinion.

Both were AMAZING races of a rare quality. The men’s 400mH was the fastest ever times for 1st, 2nd and 3rd place. But also 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th! That’s astounding! The women’s was at very least true for 1st 2nd and 3rd (do remember that Bol ran faster than any time prior to 2021 which seems to have been neglected).

kiowavt wrote:

Both were AMAZING races of a rare quality. The men’s 400mH was the fastest ever times for 1st, 2nd and 3rd place. But also 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th! That’s astounding! The women’s was at very least true for 1st 2nd and 3rd (do remember that Bol ran faster than any time prior to 2021 which seems to have been neglected).

It is sad to not see Dos Santos or Bol not get the props they deserve. Both are 21 and likely the future of the events.

The 400mh isnt as competitive as the other distances. Goes for men and women, and even less so for women. The hurdles are also ridiculously low for the women so the times should easily be better. The mens race was the better one, and Sidney really are boring. No emotion after winning.