He doubled in the worlds last year and got 4th and 5th. The Ethiopians were dead scared when he started pulling away at 300m to go in the 5000. Yesterday he did the race by himself pulling the chasing pack for 1100m. Time will tell and all the doubters who chanted he will burn out are quieting down
Clay wrote:
Kudos to Tim here, great and very courageous running!
Great and courageous to start first 400 at 3:16 pace?
That was just stupid.
He could have smashed his pr in this race. Sub 3:27 was possible. Jakob would have also been faster if everybody went out in 55" instead of 52.5
Anthos wrote:
Jakob is king wrote:
Hahaha. Jakob haters are getting desperate. Most are quiet now that they've seen what an immense talent he is and still improving!
Cheriyut just barely beat him and not too long ago they were talking about how far ahead of everyone else he is. Long live Jakob!!
Jakob hasn't got the kick required to beat the top guys in a final sprint. He won't out sprint the current 5k guys. He will not out sprint Cheruiyot or a Makhloufi in 1500m. Otherwise he will keep running impressive times but lose to someone with a better sprint finish.
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The Norwegian commentators said someone (Tim) had requested WR pace before the race started, so I guess the fast opening was part of the plan.
And not some accident
Yes, 54,5, not 52,5....
macdaddy wrote:
Jakob is king wrote:
Cheruiyot* just barely beat him
Jakob improved significantly over the last year and the gap is still VERY significant between Tim and him.
Tim ran the worse tactics of his life and still made it look easy.
Tim made 13 seconds disappear overnight (4:50 2k vs 5:03 2k)
Tim will win until he doesn't want to anymore.
Suspicious?
Halvard wrote:
Anthos wrote:
Jakob hasn't got the kick required to beat the top guys in a final sprint. He won't out sprint the current 5k guys. He will not out sprint Cheruiyot or a Makhloufi in 1500m. Otherwise he will keep running impressive times but lose to someone with a better sprint finish.
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El Guerrouj cd sprint. Ref 2004 Olympics 5k final.
i think he'll burn out or have a career ending injury or two,soon enough.but given the chemical cocktails hes on,who knows?
LordOfMind wrote:
He doubled in the worlds last year and got 4th and 5th. The Ethiopians were dead scared when he started pulling away at 300m to go in the 5000. Yesterday he did the race by himself pulling the chasing pack for 1100m. Time will tell and all the doubters who chanted he will burn out are quieting down
Ethiopians were dead scared? Of Jakob? How do you come up with this stuff?
pleeease wrote:
Anthos wrote:
Barely beat him? So there is a penalty for barely beating someone or a reward for being barely beaten? Kipruto vs Girma SC final 2019 Worlds, that's barely beating someone. All that happened here was Jakob trying to challenge Cheruiyot, Cheruiyot responded, Jakob settled, and Cheruiyot comfortably won the race. Jakob hasn't got the kick required to beat the top guys in a final sprint. He won't out sprint the current 5k guys. He will not out sprint Cheruiyot or a Makhloufi in 1500m. He tried to go early in Worlds 5k and the Ethiopians smoked him. He tried to out kick Cheruiyot today and he got smoked again. 19 or 20 yrs shdnt be an issue. Some pple hv won titles by that age. If he gets a better finish, then he may win some senior titles. Otherwise he will keep running impressive times but lose to someone with a better sprint finish.
What happened here, if you watched the race is that Jakob showed the world that he is clearly one of the two leading 1500 contenders in the world. Timy tried to blow away the field but didn't count on the fact that he is no longer clearly better. Potato man strained and strained all the way to the line. He knows the writing is on the wall. Don't even mention Makhloufi anymore. That was last year with a slower 18 year old Jakob. You gotta be kidding me if you think he is the same runner at this point. Makhloufi can only battle with Wightman and Filip for bronze. That's it. It's all clear as day now. Jakob is now one the all time greats in the 1500. 6th or 7th all time? Not sure since at least doper Kiprop doesnt count.
Those that spewed hatred at Jakob are absolutely stunned. Are crying and kicking. They have all lost control of their bowels.
Fyi, no one hates him. People don't generally hate other pple they don't know personally or who haven't done anything to them to trigger the hatred. Pple are just not worshipping him like you do. Wc is okey, some humans are born to worship others. Now it wd be okey if all the worship was warranted. He hasn't won any senior titles. He raced in a fast race, posted a high time, and that gave u all the reason to start dissing Cheruiyot, Makhloufi, Lewandowski etc..pple who have bn racing consistently for yrs. Like I said, worship yr athlete, it's yr right. But dont get upset when other pple point out, he is yet to achieve. When he beats these guys consistently over a season or 2, and wins titles to top it off, I won't worship him, but I will acknowledge his achievements.
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Subway Surfers wrote:
macdaddy wrote:
Jakob improved significantly over the last year and the gap is still VERY significant between Tim and him.
Tim ran the worse tactics of his life and still made it look easy.
Tim made 13 seconds disappear overnight (4:50 2k vs 5:03 2k)
Tim will win until he doesn't want to anymore.
Suspicious?
Unfortunately, yes v. suspicious... Especially with the availability of drugs, widespread doping and high corruption level in that part of the world. I want to believe, but just can't. No more than I believe the Russians either, before anyone starts yelling 'raccccciiisssttt...'
In any case, a truly great competition. Amazing performances from so many. Exciting to watch.
everybody knows wrote:
Best runner from Europe over the 1500m all time. He will burn out right?
WTF is this guy on? Seriously? It's not like he is a Coe type with beautiful form contributing to his performances. Has his Dad really just developed some sort of training that everyone else is missing? I'm just not buying that he is clean.
Look up Team Ingebrigtsen on YouTube. The most dedicated and structured team in the world IMO. Yes, I'm norwegian, but no chance in hell those brothers are doping.
sdahjdshjahdjasjh wrote:
WTF is this guy on? Seriously? It's not like he is a Coe type with beautiful form contributing to his performances. Has his Dad really just developed some sort of training that everyone else is missing? I'm just not buying that he is clean.
there's no magical new training to be developed.
he's definitely using, and has corporate backing.
khorrps wrote:
sdahjdshjahdjasjh wrote:
WTF is this guy on? Seriously? It's not like he is a Coe type with beautiful form contributing to his performances. Has his Dad really just developed some sort of training that everyone else is missing? I'm just not buying that he is clean.
there's no magical new training to be developed.
he's definitely using, and has corporate backing.
Not everything is a conspiracy bud.
that's nice, but back to topic though, ingibberish is an obvious doper.
sauced up cheating lowlife depriving clean athletes of their livelihoods, pal.
This thread should be about cheruiyot. He maybe can break the world record. I dont know how chunkster jakob ran 328 but lights and having someone to chase obv helps.
The 3:28 is a great time. He has WR potential.