LRC Note: (... ) In the other thread, someone reported the first 3k as just 8:25. If true, that means Jakob hammered the last 2k in 5:04.
The reporter said 8:25, furthermore they passed the 4.5 km mark in 12:18, giving a last 500 meters in 70 seconds .
high school xc coach wrote:
definitely not feasible wrote:
This is a great example that no matter what, there will always be someone critical or complaining.
This is not critical or complaining. In fact, him running such a killer final 2k shows that 20 seconds faster is very realistic, on that very course. Where is the criticism in saying he is capable of a better time?
Huh? Perhaps you didn’t read the same paragraph I did. The entire thing is criticism and complaining about the course. We’re starved for races, get a 5:04 last 2k, and this is the poster’s takeaway:
1) they could have set up a faster course
2) there were turns, curves, and even little curbs
3) a nice round loop would have been 20 seconds faster
So yeah, I’ll stand by my original statement.
“I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.”
-Mugatu
1. Damn impressive run by Henrik the Elder!!! True old man strength to hold onto Jakob that closely.
2. Those AlphaFlys were the wrong choice for a fast 5km! Looked like clogs on Jakob. He did not look comfortable in them, extremely heavy foot landing for him.
3. We need more of this!
CoronaCurious wrote:
This is Jim Kiler wrote:
I was thrilled to see this, a real, live event.
Then Jakob finished, and I saw the monstrous, likely-motorized "shoes" he was wearing, and I recalled what a mess all this is. So I switched to a video of the 1976 New York City Marathon and was happy again.
Great to see a marked upturn in Vaporfly posts in the past few days.
Ditto Caster Semenya. A sure fire sign we've got this awful disease on the run and that life is returning to normal...
+1
LRC normalcy reviving.
Jakob said afterwards that it took some time for the body to wake up.
Henrik said that he was very satisfied to
a. Be so close to Jakob (4 seconds slower)
b. Run close to 13:30 after a very hard weeks training and no tapering.
I think that Henrik has good reason to be satisfied also considering that a 5000m road run is not as fast a 5000m on the track.
I think that Jakob with a little tapering (and a more awake body) could have run around 2:40 per km (=13:20). With a quick finish he could then have broken Gressiers European record at 13:18. Jakob´s last 2 km were 2:31.5 per km!
Jakob is looking pretty thick.
That was a hard tempo for Jakob, and even Henrik wasn't looking that out of breath at the end.
Big things to come. Currently, Filip has the Norwegian 1500m record, Henrik the 3000m, and Jakob the 5000m. Jakob should crush that 3k record and he'd stand a great shot of running 3:29 in the 1500m this year if he gets that shot. Where's Filip right now? Why didn't he run? These guys should absolutely crush it in August-September if they get to just train and peak once, rather than throwing in a lot of races and travel.
zxczxcv wrote:
That was a hard tempo for Jakob, and even Henrik wasn't looking that out of breath at the end.
Big things to come. Currently, Filip has the Norwegian 1500m record, Henrik the 3000m, and Jakob the 5000m. Jakob should crush that 3k record and he'd stand a great shot of running 3:29 in the 1500m this year if he gets that shot. Where's Filip right now? Why didn't he run? These guys should absolutely crush it in August-September if they get to just train and peak once, rather than throwing in a lot of races and travel.
I could be wrong, but I highly doubt we’re gonna see anyone go out and time trial a 3:29 1500 anytime soon, let alone have a track meet to do so in. But in 2021, I think Jakob will get there.
tarckstar wrote:
Jakob is looking pretty thick.
Definitely has more of a powerful build(reminds me of John Walker) compared to how most elite 1500/5000 are built. Makes me wonder if he could be even faster if he leaned out or it might just make him more susceptible to injuries.
with the mechanical doping shoes, running needs to stop focusing on times and more on finishing places. Congrats to Jakob for getting first. But we do not know if his effort would break the record in classic shoes
zxczxcv wrote:
Where's Filip right now? Why didn't he run?.
1) Oslo.
2) Because of allergies (it's spring blossom time).
behind the wall of sleep wrote:
tarckstar wrote:
Jakob is looking pretty thick.
Definitely has more of a powerful build(reminds me of John Walker) compared to how most elite 1500/5000 are built. Makes me wonder if he could be even faster if he leaned out or it might just make him more susceptible to injuries.
Yes, definitely Jakob should starve himself and try to lose muscle so that he looks like a doped up Ethiopian stick figure.
Tempo running a 13:29 road 5K at 19 just isn't good enough.
They didn't peak for race
I am reminded of Peter Falk: "Serpentine!"
The curvy course cost some time.
I don't know if different shoes would have made a difference.
If they weren't tapered then that cost them some time.
And the pacing wasn't ideal.
They are clearly in better shape than the time they posted.
A 3:29 1500 is nice.
But do you want to run that in a time trial for no money or in the European championships for $1 million in bonuses and endorsements?
Right now there is no money to be made, so fast times will be rare.
San Diego Hobby Jogger wrote:
with the mechanical doping shoes, running needs to stop focusing on times and more on finishing places. Congrats to Jakob for getting first. But we do not know if his effort would break the record in classic shoes
Get outta here, man. These types of takes are insufferable. Get outta here.